Oxidation

[matty1001]

Hello everybody! Got a bit of a quick question to ask, how do i paint the blue/green oxidation on metal areas?
I cannot seem to find a good colour for doing it with.
Dr Evilmonkie has great results with it, but i just can\'t seem to figure it out ???
Any help would be great

 

[Ritual]

You have a large VMC painting set, right? Just pick out a colour that seem to do the trick and apply washes with it. If you can\'t find a suitable colour, pick two and mix them. Maybe I sound patronising, but really, you know what colour you want, right? It\'s right there in the photos you mention... So, mix it! Find a colour that is close and then mix it with whatever colours are needed to make it the colour you want. It really isn\'t more difficult than that!

 

[matty1001]

Yep, thats what iv been doing, but i just can\'t seem to get that wierd \'minty\' blue colour, kinda hard to describe!

Iv also heard ways of doing it with chalk dust (or am i just going daft ??? )

 

[green stuff]

Here are the Citadel colors I use (you might be able to find their VMC equivalents):

*) Scaly Green;
*) Hawk Turquoise;
*) Icy Blue;
*) Skull White.

I hope that helps.

 

[Ritual]

I know for a fact that Evilmonki uses powder from crayons when he paints certain things. Maybe that\'s how he does what you can\'t achieve.

But you can also try just adding a bright, quite light, blue to whatever green you\'re using and then add glazes with that a bit unevenly so that you get different shades of green. You could even try stipple the areas with this colour.

 

[matty1001]

Ah crayons, thats the one.

Cheers GS for the colours, il have another play about tonight or so, with different blues and greens and see what i can come up with.

Cheers for the replys.

 

[Thecadian]

well i only have a few citadels.

what i do is use goblin green and ultramarine blue and then do washes and things.

hope it helps (a bit)

james

 

[Ritual]

Originally posted by Thecadian
hope it helps (a bit)

Yeah, you wouldn\'t want to help him TOO much, right? :] lol

 

[uberdark]

matty try using a yellow glaze over the wet blue it should give you the green you are looking for. i have done this and it works great. also you can go to a store that has instant rust makers for tarnishing and put it onto the spot and it will make real rust and green colors. it looks awesome. i have done both. actually the latter i did on a sculpture but it is the same effect.

 

[RuneBrush]

Vallejo make a Verdigris wash thats pretty good - looks spot on for copper/bronze

pete

 

[matty1001]

@Runebrush, iv never heard of that il have to try it out, cheers.

@Thecadian, cheers your mix was perfect it helped alot! Quick and easy to mix up (its only for a TT gaming mini)

@Uberdark, iv seen the instant rust pigment stuff (MIG?) but never used it, has anybody got a link where i would be able to get some? Id love to give it a try.

Cheers for all the help.

 

[morfsmadness]

Good Link

Here is an awesome link that shows good NMM colors and colors to use for the oxidation
Ark\'s NMM Oxidation

 

[RuneBrush]

You can pick up the stuff here http://www.empiregamestore.co.uk/Vallejo/VPglazes.html

Free postage over £9 as well.

 

[Thecadian]

@Thecadian, cheers your mix was perfect it helped alot! Quick and easy to mix up (its only for a TT gaming mini)

glad to be a help.Have you got any pics of the result.Ive tried it on a few models but i was wondering wht it looked like by another painter.

james

 

[matty1001]

Yea il put some up, but it won\'t be until tonight, because im at college. Il let you know when i do.

 

[Highbulp Billy]

I\'ve just discovered my local ModelZone have a great stock of more technical modeling and painting supplies like the rusting effects, water effects and Tamiya paints too. I\'ve stocked up on a few items and just need to find time to try them out. Reasonable prices and no need to wait for delivery.

 

[demonherald]

GWscaly green and turquoise are your friends for this effect..
really thin ( see frenchkids translation of the juicing technique..) works a charm.. to darken it use dark flesh....
vmc colours don\'t seem to perform as well for this effect.. may be just the paints I have but gw tends to colour more when thinly diluted like this....

also the Vallejo verdigris is awesome if a little tricky to use at first ..sort of goes on white dries clear type thing...

2 other methods I\'ve used... Mig powder pigments...
great as they aren\'t permanent until you set them using spirits so you can play around to your hearts content.. they do a range of greens browns blacks and rusts..all can be mixed to get some cool combos...

another one is to use actual verdigris....
old copper etc usually on seals around pipes..just take a small smaple (warning stop scraping when you reach clean copper or solder plumbers aren\'t cheap)mix with a little white spirit and bobs your greening with age brother of ya mother....

 

[matty1001]

Yep, iv got a ModelZone near me, just found out about it aswell, lots of historical and railway modelling stuff.

Heres what i managed with James\'s recipie, which im pretty happy with:

 

[Dragonsreach]

I\'ve been mixing VGC Light Turquoise & Military green 70/30 to get the blue green patina verdigris effect for Brass MNN.

Matty the picture looks as if you are painting on the verdigis before the metal. personally I think you need to work the metal first then the aging/oxidisation for the best representation.

 

[matty1001]

No, i painted the metal first then the rusty stuff. Iv got a bit of browns to add then il be done, not a super job, just good for gaming.