PETER JACKSON TO FILM THE HOBBIT!!!
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Roger Bunting
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Maybe they found the stuff I wrote when I was about 12 or 13 for an English project at school. We had read The Hobbit and we had to write stuff for what happened after. Maybe I should get my lawyers on this to make sure I get my royalties.
Gilvan Blight
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I guessing they are just going to break the story into two parts. You can\'t expect Mr. Jackson to tell the story in only 3 hours do you, he will need at least 6, + an extra hour and a half for the extended editions.
I just hope he keeps some of the poems and songs in \"... cause that\'s what Bilbo Baggins hates\".
I just hope he keeps some of the poems and songs in \"... cause that\'s what Bilbo Baggins hates\".
Torn blue sky
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Well obviously Smaug woke up with a bit of a belly ache and the hobbit became a do-over lol Bilbo Had a picknick where the trolls turned to stone and it was a jolly event untill they were kidnapped by orcs. Smaug finds them and rains fire from the sky...
Matthew McConaughey turns up in his apache and saves the day! YAY!
Didn\'t Ian Holm say he was up for being in the hobbit if they got the others on board? If they can make him look every day of eleventy one then I\'m sure they can slap on some makeup to make him look younger. After all they did have the little flashback where he first finds the ring.
As Gandalf says \"You haven\'t aged a day\".
Ian Holm was such a great Bilbo that I think that if they used someone else it just wouldn\'t work for me. There\'s no reason they couldn\'t either, look at the flashback scene in X Men 3 (but probably best you don\'t look at the rest, it\'s pretty terrible!).
Still curious who they will choose to direct this though. I can\'t see it being a turkey, but it could be less good than it should be if they mess up the choice of folks in charge or in key acting roles.
Still curious who they will choose to direct this though. I can\'t see it being a turkey, but it could be less good than it should be if they mess up the choice of folks in charge or in key acting roles.
Avelorn
Sven Jonsson
I heard Arnold is going to take up his movie career again in playing all 3 Troll characters. They\'ve nailed the last sentence before the trolls turned to stone \"We\'ll be...\". Someone said that Al Gore will have the role as the elven king of Mirkwood explaining how the evil Smaug is polluting the planet with his CO2 emissions and that the dwarfs should stop mining as it thins out the natural resources and releases heavy metals to the drinking water. George W. will make a short appearence as the Master of Esgaroth explaining that Smaug is in reality a constituting part of the Middle-earth economy.
These are all rumours though...
These are all rumours though...
But, I thought it was a bit odd, dear Bilbo, that you looked 111 when you were only 52!!
lollol
Don\'t get me wrong, I really liked Ian Holm as Bilbo (and even better as jack the ripper!!) but I still think he may be a bit long in the tooth to convince me he is a young hobbit full of adventure.
fieldarchy
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Regradless of how close the movies were to the books, they were still adequate hollywood representations of the books to the point that the books gained popularity again among the general populace. I know a lot more people now who have read those books after they saw the movies than before. I was one of the weirdo kids in school reading books like Contact in the fifth grade and my dad bought me scifi/fantasy classics such as Starship Troopers, The Silmarillon, The Hobbit and LOTR when I was really young to promote reading.
In other words, yes there are deficiencies but wouldn\'t you rather there be an amended version of stories us geeks like so much in order to spark interest in fantasy and sci fi related hobbies? Wouldn\'t you like to be understood a bit more? Who can deny the greatness of the LOTR movies in terms of the great costuming, the great feel of the movie, the level of acting (ok there were a couple of stiffled moments)? I was very satisfied with the visual representations of these beloved tales that Peter Jackson made and I am very happy that he is doing the Hobbit.
In other words, yes there are deficiencies but wouldn\'t you rather there be an amended version of stories us geeks like so much in order to spark interest in fantasy and sci fi related hobbies? Wouldn\'t you like to be understood a bit more? Who can deny the greatness of the LOTR movies in terms of the great costuming, the great feel of the movie, the level of acting (ok there were a couple of stiffled moments)? I was very satisfied with the visual representations of these beloved tales that Peter Jackson made and I am very happy that he is doing the Hobbit.
Torn blue sky
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SEEEEE that\'s a pro of Hollywood doing their thing with sci-fi/fantasy/Cult/Comics!
More peeps get into it through the on screen stuff. Ok fair to say Hollywood hasn\'t always done them justice, but I loved the LOTR films and Serenity!
Hell even my fave film of all time was REALLY well done! \"The Crow\"!
I have to admit the trendys that latch onto it piss me off though, thats a possible downer. We all met them \"Hey ask me anything about XXX\", half the time they havn\'t got a clue and storm off in a huff. Not after they annoyed the shit out of you though...And probably commented on your wardrobe.
Having said that, i\'m not a HUGE critic, I enjoy it of I don\'t. The only film I ever urged anyone NOT to see was \"Eragon\". Yeah I was stuck on a trans atlantic flight when I watched it, but I still wish I had that time back to do something more productive...like sleep.
More peeps get into it through the on screen stuff. Ok fair to say Hollywood hasn\'t always done them justice, but I loved the LOTR films and Serenity!
Hell even my fave film of all time was REALLY well done! \"The Crow\"!
I have to admit the trendys that latch onto it piss me off though, thats a possible downer. We all met them \"Hey ask me anything about XXX\", half the time they havn\'t got a clue and storm off in a huff. Not after they annoyed the shit out of you though...And probably commented on your wardrobe.
Having said that, i\'m not a HUGE critic, I enjoy it of I don\'t. The only film I ever urged anyone NOT to see was \"Eragon\". Yeah I was stuck on a trans atlantic flight when I watched it, but I still wish I had that time back to do something more productive...like sleep.
fieldarchy
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Primeval you should be grateful that hollywood has taken on projects though to encourage our hobby. I think it\'s great that more people will show interest in D&D or the LOTR wargame/RPG because of those movies and now hopefully more of the hobbit will be included. Oh and that also means the continuation of our hobby because we get fresh meat to spurr on the market and keep companies around. So yes, whether or not you are happy about it you should be thankful that these movies and others like it turn people on to RPGs/Wargaming/Mini painting. I didn\'t get into D&D until College and it was after my dad had already given me great sci fi and fantasy books. I was glad to finally find a game and group of friends I could dork out with and not be judged for it.
You just sound like a snarky stick in the mud about it. If you don\'t want to see it then don\'t but also don\'t rain on anyone\'s parade when some of us are very happy about it.
Just my $0.02
You just sound like a snarky stick in the mud about it. If you don\'t want to see it then don\'t but also don\'t rain on anyone\'s parade when some of us are very happy about it.
Just my $0.02
The LoTR books were packed with good ideas, but they were rather badly written, the pacing was laugable and they were packed with masses of things to be critical about. Classics yes, but not the classiest of classics when it comes to well delivered stories. The world is fascinating, the tale is badly told.
The films did it better from my point of view. Yes there were changes that a hardcore fan of the books might find troublesome, but there were changes that made so much sense too. In all, the trillogy of films delivers the tale as a far more cohesive and consistant package.
The books are good enough, the films are superb.
So
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I agree with that lono, the majority of the third film was summed up in four or five lines and most of that was how such and such was going home in an ambulance lol
My biggest problem with the LotR films is that every time I watch them I have to fight the overwhelming urge to paint and buy more minis (often partway through the film!). Whatever happens it\'s going to seriously hurt my bank balance.
My biggest problem with the LotR films is that every time I watch them I have to fight the overwhelming urge to paint and buy more minis (often partway through the film!). Whatever happens it\'s going to seriously hurt my bank balance.
demonherald
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Vike hot steamy midget sex...Now that\'s a seller ...
I\'m in the camp that this is a good thing as long as it\'s done right and hopefully PJ is directing.....
The books are good but would have made for a pretty borin ass movie really 3 hours of walking don a road singing silly songs and poems of old every now and then glancing back and seeing a shadow....
The movie versions are versions of the story and fo me they work..Extra Arwen well it was Liv Tyler so I ain\'t complaining...The thing is as Avelorn says unless the book is written to make a movie changes hae to be made...They can tinker as much as they like as long as they make the films I\'m happy to watch..
One thing is for sure. GW wil be breathing a sigh of relief as They certainly miss the LOTR movies....
On a similar note just seen theTrailer for the next Narnia move and that looks good too...
I\'m in the camp that this is a good thing as long as it\'s done right and hopefully PJ is directing.....
The books are good but would have made for a pretty borin ass movie really 3 hours of walking don a road singing silly songs and poems of old every now and then glancing back and seeing a shadow....
The movie versions are versions of the story and fo me they work..Extra Arwen well it was Liv Tyler so I ain\'t complaining...The thing is as Avelorn says unless the book is written to make a movie changes hae to be made...They can tinker as much as they like as long as they make the films I\'m happy to watch..
One thing is for sure. GW wil be breathing a sigh of relief as They certainly miss the LOTR movies....
On a similar note just seen theTrailer for the next Narnia move and that looks good too...
fieldarchy
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Dude lost a ton of weight!!!
Dang I didn\'t realize how much weight he lost. Now if only he could learn to groom himself he\'d get all the chainmail bikini babes!
Dang I didn\'t realize how much weight he lost. Now if only he could learn to groom himself he\'d get all the chainmail bikini babes!
I have to respectfully disagree. The books are not poorly written!!
The pacing is slow (excrutiatingly at times) but we are a different generation than what it was written for. Books didn\'t necessarily have to flow from plot point to plot point to be entertaining.
Modern storytelling is much more polished and slicker, but it doesn\'t mean stories not told in that fashion are poor ones!
I agree it may show its age, but it is NOT badly written. I have always loved Tolkiens meandering, because I felt like I was a denizen of the world he created...not just someone peeking in to see what was happening. I loved the over detail of things, what they were eating, etc. because I felt totally immersed.
That doesn\'t translate well to film, or to the video game generation, where clear concise outlines are needed.
I\'m not just a Tolkien \'fanboy\' either. The Silmarillion for instance,is almost completly unreadable at times.
However, I have always thought of the books v. the films as two seperate entities. I can enjoy both differently and not feel let down. There are concessions that a filmmaker had to make, not only to keep it interesting, but to keep it within a watchable length. The films capture the spirit of Middle Earth far better than I had hoped for.
Sure things could have been done better, but they could also have been done much worse.
My point in this is that you are certainly entitled to your opinion that the books are overwrought, but I\'ll argue that that is what makes them classics in my eyes.
The pacing is slow (excrutiatingly at times) but we are a different generation than what it was written for. Books didn\'t necessarily have to flow from plot point to plot point to be entertaining.
Modern storytelling is much more polished and slicker, but it doesn\'t mean stories not told in that fashion are poor ones!
I agree it may show its age, but it is NOT badly written. I have always loved Tolkiens meandering, because I felt like I was a denizen of the world he created...not just someone peeking in to see what was happening. I loved the over detail of things, what they were eating, etc. because I felt totally immersed.
That doesn\'t translate well to film, or to the video game generation, where clear concise outlines are needed.
I\'m not just a Tolkien \'fanboy\' either. The Silmarillion for instance,is almost completly unreadable at times.
However, I have always thought of the books v. the films as two seperate entities. I can enjoy both differently and not feel let down. There are concessions that a filmmaker had to make, not only to keep it interesting, but to keep it within a watchable length. The films capture the spirit of Middle Earth far better than I had hoped for.
Sure things could have been done better, but they could also have been done much worse.
My point in this is that you are certainly entitled to your opinion that the books are overwrought, but I\'ll argue that that is what makes them classics in my eyes.
Torn blue sky
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I agree with the ginger kid, you can sit with me at lunch today lol
freakinacage
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yeah ditto. some changes have to be made such is the way. i have only seen one film that has transferred as perfectly as you suggest from paper form and that was sin city (possibly 300 - have read the comic but it looks very stylised). books just vary so much. what may be perfect for one person may be totally different to how someone else sees it
