Pigments you might recommend

[TJKleens]

Hello all. I am hoping to purchasing a few pigments. I noticed the cmon shop had some. I was wondering how those compared to say vallejo pigments and other brands on the market. I am not looking for cheap pigments to kinda do the job. I want to purchase quality pigments so that my work looks good. I was hoping some of you out there could direct me to some of your favorite brands. Or direct me away from poor brands. Thanks for your time. TJ

 

[Einion]

Would recommend you try pastels instead. More info in these recentish threads:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?47792-Looking-for-info-on-starting-with-Pigments
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?48555-Weathering-Pigments

Einion

 

[10 ball]

^^^ this is good advice, recommended ^^^

 

[TJKleens]

Thanks I'll try using the pastels. TJ

 

[Kretcher]

I use pastels and also some MIG products. both work well.

 

[TJKleens]

I went to an art store today to take a look at the pastels. I did not purchase any because I did not know which ones to get. I saw both oil based and water based. I would assume the water based are the ones I want, but you know what they say about assuming. If someone could please clarify as to which ones are best to work with it would be appreciated. I noticed that the pastels come in a wide range of earthly colors. For the same price of a pack of 4 earth colors in jars the pastel package had 12-15. Thanks for your time. TJ

 

[kathrynloch]

Are you looking to use the pigments or pastels for weathering or for dry painting?

You're not going to want the oil based pastels no matter which job. If you're weathering, cheaper pastels with more binder won't effect your work but if you're dry painting the binders will reduce the color value and take more layers.

It just depends what you want to do with them.

 

[TJKleens]

Thanks for the info. I want to experiment with weathering and dust covering. I will be working with them wet to avoid scratching off my paint job. TJ

 

[freakinacage]

http://www.modeldisplayproducts.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=63
not as cheap as pastels but top quality and cheaper than most pigments

 

[RuneBrush]

Thanks for the info. I want to experiment with weathering and dust covering. I will be working with them wet to avoid scratching off my paint job. TJ

Don't worry too much about working dry as you can "seal" them once they're applied. Using them wet will give you a different effect to using them dry too - wet can be used to make a muddy build up effect and dry for layers of dust etc.

Just re-read your comment as well - checking that you're grinding your pastel down into powder and not just rubbing them on?

 

[Dragonsreach]

The Pastels you need for this kind of work are the Chalk like pastels from Conte or Faber.
Paint a little Matt varnish where you want the waethering then scrape a knife over the edge of the pastels to get a fine dust into the wet varnish. Works nicely.

 

[TJKleens]

Hello again all. Thank you to everyone who left all the great suggestions. Yes. I will be grinding them up or filing it off into dusty particles. I had planned to use liquid and create bits of dried mud or maybe a light layered effect. I may try using them dry on the next piece I experiment with. I purchased chalk pastels. In case anyone that reads this is curious where I purchased them, I got them at JoAnns fabric and crafts. They were very inexpensive compared to the other set I found at Michaels. (The set at Michaels was earth tones only but was about 2.5 times more expensive.) We have only one true art store in our town and they charge three times the going rate for comparable items. (I guess ya gotta stay in business somehow.) Anyway the box has 48 colors in it. While many aren't good colors for weathering I'll probably toy around with them on some watercolor paper. Anyway, I'm currently priming a mini that will serve as my test subject. I'll post my results on another thread when it's done. Thank you again to everyone for your input. TJ