Please help me improve...

Lasharm

New member
I finished this up using the suggestions from this board...
http://www.coolminiornot.com/236481

Thought it looked good, and my gaming groups approved... But can someone explain why I'm getting votes for "1"... I can understand 4-5 (like my other minis), but 1... really???

If your voting low, please at least tell me how I can improve this mini.
 

Ritual

New member
Well, first of all... The photos aren't doing you any favours. They are not very good photos, I'm afraid. Sculpts are notoriouslu difficult to photograph as not only are they small, but they're also a single colour without shading and highlighting, so they can easily end up looking very undefined and just a green or grey shapeless blob.

Second, the voting standards here on CMON on sculpts seem to be a bit all over the place. I know that some people always vote 1 on unpainted sculpts, no matter how good they are, because they're completely hung up on the voting "guide" on the browse page:

Voting Guide: Pretend you're a Golden Demon judge. Painting skill, imagination and style are key!

which clearly does not apply on sculpts. As you can't enter unpainted minis in Golden Demon they feel a sculpt deserves a 1 if it's not painted. (Ironically, a painted mini from another company than GW can apparently be judged without problem... :eyeroll!: )

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the scores here on CMON. The important thing is that you feel you make progress with your sculpting. If you want any constructive criticism, I'd say work on anatomy, folds in fabrics and putty smoothness.
 

PegaZus

Stealth Freak
As-is, I wouldn't give it a 5. Why? Not ready for table use. No basing is an automatic -1 when I vote. Yes, I know: it's a sculpt. The thing that really popped out at me was that it wasn't painted. Yes, I know: it's a sculpt. Unpainted is nearly the same as poorly painted. Yes, I know: it's a sculpt.

Perhaps if it wasn't held in a base, that wouldn't detract things for me. As silly as the notion of just having a base in the picture being a detriment, it's something I thought of that really bothered me, and maybe a lot of the down votes come from that as well. In other words, having a base in the picture makes it be a vote on "completed figure as shown" where basing and painting are included. Whereas just having the sculpt by itself or on a tool/vise/whatever would equate to "sculpted figure, not painted or based" in my mind.

There's a lot of shine to it, and so the edges just jump out, and overall that makes the picture of it very fuzzy. Fuzzy is not the word I want to use, but I can't think of the word I want. Cluttered, scratchy, blocky, something around that. Maybe the word I'm looking for is "clean". It may be fine in real life, but the pictures make the edges look ragged. Middle top picture is a good example. The edges of the chest muscles (especially the pecs) look a little like someone has been filing on standard modeling plastic (like a model car kit) and has left some of that half melted, half filings grunk around the edge of whatever was being filed.

Maybe a better example would be the bottom right picture. Around the figure's pocket there are some marks. Those are probably meant to be folds, but the picture is a bit grainy and with the high contrast from the modeling compound, it makes it look like stray tool marks. I'm not sure I'm conveying what I'm thinking, so I apologize if my meaning isn't clear.

The background of the picture is gray, and the figure is gray. A black background may have helped. Or maybe colored, or white. I don't know what to do about the shine. If you're planning to cast it or paint it later, then I'm not sure I would give it a shot of clear matte. So... I'm stuck at this point.

Getting past all of that, the figure itself isn't very dynamic. That's just an observation, and a personal opinion. It's not a figure I would buy off the shelf. So I wouldn't adding points to it for that, and maybe others are too. I guess a long story short (too late) is that if you're happy with it, don't worry too much about the votes. Accept it.
 

freakinacage

Well-known member
personally i would say a 5. but that because i don't do the whole, unpainted=1 thing

takes a LOT to be as low as a 1. as it is, it's got a really crap photo. if it was better i may up it to a 6 but you need to neaten the sculpting and refine the shapes more
 

supervike

Super Moderator
It's pretty decent anatomy...but everything looks rough and unfinished. I''d work on smoothing out your sculpting more.
 

BPI

New member
Hi Lasharm, you've spent a good chunk of time working on the various iterations of this mini. Might it be time to take a step back from it? Sculpt something else, or multiple something elses. One a week, Barbarian warrior, Vietnam era GI, schoolgirl, big blobby alien thing! Lots of oppurtunity to practice sculpting smooth shapes & playing with scale, refining your technique but with fresh eyes for a fresh project? In a month or three come back & do a new fitness trainer. Compare it to the previous, I'll bet there's a noticable improvement. Just a thought, take it as you will :) cheers, B.

EDIT: sorry, just looked at your gallery, I've looked at that Businesman recently as well :redface: Oh well, :) B.
 
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Shawn R. L.

New member
Here's a quick chart to help you. Proportions are EVERYTHING. I've divided this fellow up into the major segments you will need to get spot on. The head, from the crown to the chin is the measuring stick for doing figures.....eg. most are about 7 to 7 1/2 heads tall, more or less. This can easily cure a lot of problems. It's good to work the proportions out before you get the musculature, cloths and details on.

I think what you have is already well on the way to being a fine sculpt. Keep us posted with WIP's.

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