Possibly the LARGEST wip ever!!
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Looking great, Matt. Still really looking forward to seeing the knights.
As an aside, I\'d be interested to have you post a quick and dirty summary of the colors and whatnot that you use with each new unit you post. I\'m really liking the richness of your yellows in particular.
As an aside, I\'d be interested to have you post a quick and dirty summary of the colors and whatnot that you use with each new unit you post. I\'m really liking the richness of your yellows in particular.
mattsterbenz
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Thanks guys. New update to come later during the week.
Sorry I meant to include the recipes, but I forgot. (And I just got done typing them up and accidentally hit the back button on my browser... AGH!)
Here\'s some of the color recipes. There\'s mixes in between some of the colors, but this is all I used:
Wood: Black, Scorched, Graveyard Earth, Bleached Bone.
Metal: the metal needed to be very dark, so I kept highlights restricted to edges only. Boltgun basecoat, Devlan Mud wash, 2 Badab Black washes, Boltgun Metal, Mithril Silver.
Green Clothing: Scorched, Catachan, Camo.
Leather: Scorched, black wash, Scorched, Bestial.
Red leather: Black, Scorched, Dark Flesh, Vermin Brown.
Skin: Tallarn Flesh, GW reddish-brown wash (forget the name of it), Tallarn Flesh, My flesh highlight mix (50/50 Elf Flesh and White, with a tiny bit of Blood Red added, looks close to the old Pallid Flesh color)
Bright Yellow: Vomit Brown, Golden Yellow, Sunburst, Sunburst+White.
Dull Yellow (on the guy\'s robe, fourth from the left in the lower picture). Bestial Brown, Tausept Ochre, Iyanden Darksun. ID + Bone.
The dog guy\'s apron: I used some P3 paints on this one, don\'t remember exactly which since my paints are not with me at the moment. It was one of their neutral browns, highlighted with Hammerfall Khaki, and then highlighted with Bone. Vermin Brown was thinned and then stippled on the base.
Let me know if I forgot anything, I\'ll happily post the recipe!
-Matt
Sorry I meant to include the recipes, but I forgot. (And I just got done typing them up and accidentally hit the back button on my browser... AGH!)
Here\'s some of the color recipes. There\'s mixes in between some of the colors, but this is all I used:
Wood: Black, Scorched, Graveyard Earth, Bleached Bone.
Metal: the metal needed to be very dark, so I kept highlights restricted to edges only. Boltgun basecoat, Devlan Mud wash, 2 Badab Black washes, Boltgun Metal, Mithril Silver.
Green Clothing: Scorched, Catachan, Camo.
Leather: Scorched, black wash, Scorched, Bestial.
Red leather: Black, Scorched, Dark Flesh, Vermin Brown.
Skin: Tallarn Flesh, GW reddish-brown wash (forget the name of it), Tallarn Flesh, My flesh highlight mix (50/50 Elf Flesh and White, with a tiny bit of Blood Red added, looks close to the old Pallid Flesh color)
Bright Yellow: Vomit Brown, Golden Yellow, Sunburst, Sunburst+White.
Dull Yellow (on the guy\'s robe, fourth from the left in the lower picture). Bestial Brown, Tausept Ochre, Iyanden Darksun. ID + Bone.
The dog guy\'s apron: I used some P3 paints on this one, don\'t remember exactly which since my paints are not with me at the moment. It was one of their neutral browns, highlighted with Hammerfall Khaki, and then highlighted with Bone. Vermin Brown was thinned and then stippled on the base.
Let me know if I forgot anything, I\'ll happily post the recipe!
-Matt
mattsterbenz
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Glad the recipes are a help
Decided to go with the Grail Knights. I got the horses cleaned up, gaps filled, and started painting. The skin is done on all 6 of them and I started painting some of the fabric. All of the Grail Knights will have unique color schemes, so they will be totally different from the rest of the army, but still tied together by the leather, metal, and horse colors.
Now I need to come up with a few more good schemes...
Pictures of the finished horses (maybe the riders too, if I am productive enough) will come on Sunday. Today I went to a brand new game store across town, that a couple good friends opened up. It is awesome, let\'s just put it that way. Basically it\'s like a GW store on crack (it does help that the owner used to manage the LA Bunker). So I had a lot of fun there today hanging out and getting some painting done!
-Matt
Decided to go with the Grail Knights. I got the horses cleaned up, gaps filled, and started painting. The skin is done on all 6 of them and I started painting some of the fabric. All of the Grail Knights will have unique color schemes, so they will be totally different from the rest of the army, but still tied together by the leather, metal, and horse colors.
Now I need to come up with a few more good schemes...
Pictures of the finished horses (maybe the riders too, if I am productive enough) will come on Sunday. Today I went to a brand new game store across town, that a couple good friends opened up. It is awesome, let\'s just put it that way. Basically it\'s like a GW store on crack (it does help that the owner used to manage the LA Bunker). So I had a lot of fun there today hanging out and getting some painting done!
-Matt
mattsterbenz
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A day late on the update School has been keeping me tied down, and I\'ll admit that I underestimated just how time consuming it is to paint real bright colors!
So the skin and the fabric are done. Now I have to do the hair, hooves, saddles, and head armor. Shouldn\'t take more than a couple days (taking school into consideration).
I need to come up with a couple freehand designs to put on the white/green and the white/red horses. Any ideas?
Thanks for sticking with the project!
-Matt
School has been keeping me tied down, and I\'ll admit that I underestimated just how time consuming it is to paint real bright colors!So the skin and the fabric are done. Now I have to do the hair, hooves, saddles, and head armor. Shouldn\'t take more than a couple days (taking school into consideration).
I need to come up with a couple freehand designs to put on the white/green and the white/red horses. Any ideas?
Thanks for sticking with the project!
-Matt
mattsterbenz
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Forgot to include some of the color recipes:
*white undercoat*
-Horses are the same as before. Look near the bottom of page 4 for the recipes.
-Red- Blood Red, shade with thinned Red Gore, shade with thinned P3 Sanguine Base, Highlight Blood Red + Blazing Orange, Highlight Blazing Orange
-White- (Thank you Spacemunkie) Many thin layers of Skull White to get the brightest basecoat possible, then shaded with Space Wolves Grey. A touch of thinned Shadow Grey was put in the darker areas.
-Yellow- Vomit Brown, Golden Yellow, Sunburst Yellow, Bad Moon Yellow + Skull White (the knight\'s yellow needed to be really really bright!)
-Green- Basecoat black (green paints terrible over a white basecoat) then came Dark Angels Green, added in Snot Green for highlights followed by Snot Green + Scorpion Green.
-Turquoise- Basecoat Scaly Green, add in Hawk Turquoise, followed by HT + white.
-Black- Basecoat Chaos Black. Layered up through my mixed pots of dark grey (various amounts of Chaos Black and Shadow Grey. Makes a nice cool highlight color and keeps the black looking very dark).
-Matt
*white undercoat*
-Horses are the same as before. Look near the bottom of page 4 for the recipes.
-Red- Blood Red, shade with thinned Red Gore, shade with thinned P3 Sanguine Base, Highlight Blood Red + Blazing Orange, Highlight Blazing Orange
-White- (Thank you Spacemunkie)
Many thin layers of Skull White to get the brightest basecoat possible, then shaded with Space Wolves Grey. A touch of thinned Shadow Grey was put in the darker areas. -Yellow- Vomit Brown, Golden Yellow, Sunburst Yellow, Bad Moon Yellow + Skull White (the knight\'s yellow needed to be really really bright!)
-Green- Basecoat black (green paints terrible over a white basecoat) then came Dark Angels Green, added in Snot Green for highlights followed by Snot Green + Scorpion Green.
-Turquoise- Basecoat Scaly Green, add in Hawk Turquoise, followed by HT + white.
-Black- Basecoat Chaos Black. Layered up through my mixed pots of dark grey (various amounts of Chaos Black and Shadow Grey. Makes a nice cool highlight color and keeps the black looking very dark).
-Matt
Micha
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These look great, I´ve got a whole regiment of these old grail knights standing here - now I want to paint them too. One quiestion though: how will you fit the knights onto the horses? The models I have hat about 3mm gap between saddle bottom and horseback, so I glued them in place prior to painting and extended the saddles with GS. How did you solve this?
Micha
Micha
mattsterbenz
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Most of the older riders don\'t fit well on the horses. Usually I\'ll bend the legs apart just a bit until everything fits. (make sure to bend them and test-fit before painting!)
Thanks for all the kind words guys
Yes I think I\'ll have to do some fleur-de-lys on those two horses. Maybe a checker or diamond pattern on one.
-Matt
mattsterbenz
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Cheers Manus
Here\'s the latest update. Just the riders left now. I painted a diamond pattern along the white/green horse\'s back. I still need to come up with something for the red/white, probably just Fleur-de-lys (red fleur on the white area, and a white fleur on the red area).
-Matt
Here\'s the latest update. Just the riders left now. I painted a diamond pattern along the white/green horse\'s back. I still need to come up with something for the red/white, probably just Fleur-de-lys (red fleur on the white area, and a white fleur on the red area).
-Matt
mattsterbenz
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Sure thing Arma, I\'ll take a few stage-by-stage shots of the next unit of horses that I do
-Matt
-Matt
mattsterbenz
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lol I figured I\'d get people nudging me for an update soon
School\'s been keeping me really tied up. I had a big project and a large test, but now that those are out of the way things are a bit better.
The knight riders are almost done, and I am cleaning up the next unit of men-at-arms as we speak!
Arma\'s step-by-step horse wish will be granted sooner than expected, as a matter of fact. I painted the wrong horse for one of the grail knights (the icons on the riders\' helmets are supposed to match the horses, and evidently one doesn\'t.) So I will be painting up the proper horse very soon as well.
Stay tuned and happy painting,
-Matt
School\'s been keeping me really tied up. I had a big project and a large test, but now that those are out of the way things are a bit better.
The knight riders are almost done, and I am cleaning up the next unit of men-at-arms as we speak!
Arma\'s step-by-step horse wish will be granted sooner than expected, as a matter of fact. I painted the wrong horse for one of the grail knights (the icons on the riders\' helmets are supposed to match the horses, and evidently one doesn\'t.) So I will be painting up the proper horse very soon as well.
Stay tuned and happy painting,
-Matt
