Price increase! Aarrrgh!!!

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Death Jester

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Yes, M3 is correct! (I knew M2 was wrong!)

The MG42 was the best medium MG of WWII because it could fire 20 rounds per second - you would not catch me storming a beach at Normandy!

The Browning .50cal is the best heavy MG - They are so reliable that some of the ones in use today date back to WW1!!!

Did u know a .50cal round can go straight through a car engine block AND whoever is on the other side of it? It was, of course, developed as an anti-tank weapon around 1918 or 1919. Not until the Panzer 4 onwards could any tank withstand .50cal hits (even then, only on the front!)
 
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Sturmhalo

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Just to be anal. 23.3 rounds per second on a good day. But I don\'t know if that\'s in its light or heavy mode!

I gotta get out more.

:eek:
 
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Death Jester

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That\'s them all right! Only it\'s not....

It\'s the 3rd box, the aliens themselves, but the marines are from the same range. E-bay lists them as limited edition, only available in 1992 (the same year Alien 3 was released, if memory serves me), so I will probably have a great deal of difficulty in getting them....

Maybe, before long, someone will make new ones (my sculpting is not all that great at the minute)

Thanks for trying anyway, much appreciated!!
 
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Death Jester

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I have a book that lists the MG42 as 1200 rounds per minute (20 per second), but that may just be an estimation.

Whether it is 20 or 23.3 rounds per second, I would still not run up a beach at one (or ten)!
 
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Sturmhalo

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You could try going to hetzerdog.com and asking them to track down the figures for you. They do a wanted lists service. Not sure if they charge, but I don\'t think they do.

I could ask around my contacts as well just on the off chance that someone has what you\'re after.

MP28 was another beautiful looking gun. Love the wooden stock.
 
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Death Jester

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Cool, thanx!

Did u know that Schmeisser actually made a version of the MP-38/MP-40 with a solid wooden stock (called the MP-41) that could fire both single shots and auto? Only a few were made for elite units though, it never went into mass production.
 
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Sturmhalo

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I always thought that the MP41 was a bastard hybrid that was knocked up and found to be greatly wanting, only to end up in the hands of Volksturm troops. Something of a bad idea all round according to the brief extracts I\'ve read. It looks kinda odd as well. Two different guns glued together!:D

Anyway, just to bring this thread back to something of its original point.... What about the price of citadel paint? The actual price isn\'t too bad but the quantity you get in a pot takes the piss these days. The old flip top pots contained 20ml! Then a redesign saw that drop to about 14ml. Now we have 12ml! :flame: The price has still gone up over the years though!
 
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Death Jester

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I am 29 years old, go to the gym 4 times a week and studied martial arts for 2 years and I cannot, for the life of me, open those new pots with the black srcew-on lids! They are utterly horrible!

The new paints are designed so that the price only went up a little, but you have already said that the quantity went down! Hmmmm, coincidence? I think not....

The new paints also have very poor pigmentation, that is they do not cover in one coat. The best acrylics are Vallejo.
 
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Death Jester

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The MP-41 was a deliberate design by Schmeisser, a rare example of wartime German private enterprise! He designed it as a cross between the MP-28 and MP-40, but it was rejected by the military and never became popular. A few did find their way into elite units for trials, and a few more were shipped out to various military units when spare parts became few and far between, but that\'s about it.
 
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Sturmhalo

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I quite like the paint. The thin fluid nature of it suits my style, but those screw tops are a bloody nightmare! A few sharp hits against my work table tends to loosen them up!

Never used Vallejo. Might try it some day.

Jeez! I\'ve been on this damn computer for hours! I\'ve wasted my life :eek: Must go and photograph those Crusader orcs I was intending to do about two hours ago.

Bye bye everyone :bouncy:
 
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Death Jester

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Vallejo acrylics are quite thick, so you need to thin them before use, but their heavy pigmentation covers well! They have no alcohol in their medium, so they work better and do not dry as quickly!

Valleyo also make \"Model Air\" paints, which are designed for an airbrush and are quite thin. They also have a \"Fantasy\" range, but I think they are just named \"Skull White\", etc., apart from that the same as the normal range.

They all come in a special bottle with an eye-dropper built into the top, so they cannot spill - you have to put drops of paint onto a pallatte. A little flow enhancer, and away you go!
 
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nadinbrzezinski

New member
Well I use what works

This means Ceramcoat, though water it down, GW, Reaper... I still have some RP but when that is gone it is gone... and that is the way I work.

Now going to the original question... as long as people will pay, prices will continue to go up. that said there are plenty of cheaper alternatives out there, cough reaper cough. just to mention one. Foundry is no longer a cheaper one which is a shame truly, but they know that the market will bear it, so why not?

And that is all I have to say.

As to why stores do not carry new stuff? I promise you that if you commit yourselves to pushing new games, your retailers might be willing to consider it. Otherwise, well good luck beyond the online stores.

Nadin
 
Chrispy

Chrispy

Active member
Paints:
I staterd painting with the newer screw on lids and I had to use a wrench to open them. The prblem was the dang Citadel logo engraved on them.. I have worked up a callus on my right hand from the skin-flayng effects of it.

Stores:
As some of you may or may not know, I hung out at a local mini store and had a few figs there to show off my work. One day the store owners left in the middle of the night to get away from their debts on the property... This complied with the fact only comic stores sell minis around here means I\'m less likely to buy from stores.

Thus, I buy online and can get some of the new stuff.. Confrontation and stuff like that I must get from France. Even so, some online stores offer the same percent off and yet the prices are totally different. I\'m pretty sure this increase will only confuse stores more. And I remember when $5 would get you 4 minis..... :rolleyes:
 
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Flashman14

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I mentioned in an earlier post about getting GW stuff on the cheap. Well, it just so happens, I\'m wandering around Roosevelt Field mall on Long Island and go in to the WOTC store. Lo! What\'s this? they are closing!! For good this location! But that also meant all the 40k stuff was 20% off! So There were Necron Flayers, 2 figs in the blister listed at 19.99! F*** Off!! Even on sale, no two figs are worth that. How the hell could I justify a unit of those at those prices?

I confess I did get ONE Necron Destroyer Lord for $15.96 . . . still . . .a Necron Destroyer Lord could come in handy . . .

My only point: I f you want to pick up 40k with a bit of a discount then WOTC in Roosevelt Field (NYC/LongIsland area) is having a permanent sale. Tons of vehicles left - no WFB at all though a sign says those were 50% off.

All Chainmail stuff is 75% off there. They must have 30 of that Iron robot thing for the Chainmail Dwarven faction at 75% off. Not much else really from WOTC itself.
 
Chrispy

Chrispy

Active member
No, I don\'t get an upgrade quite yet.. I just get some small satisfaction that I post more than the owner... Which may or not be a good thing... :D
 
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nadinbrzezinski

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Yeah WoTC is reorganizing

major time, in fact.

Now Chrispy obviously you are not the target for my post. But if you wonder why many brick and mortar retailers are goign away, partly is they do not know what they are doing. This is a problem with the retail side, I opened this to have some fun and play all day... what do you mean this is work?

That said, there are some good retailers out there, and you know what? One reason for them to go away is precisely because players are NOT willing to suport them with displayed armies or by doing demos. Yes this is a pet peeve of mine, why? As is the hobby, with some exceptions, (GW) is a static to negative growth hobby... and partly we, the hobbyists, have ourselves to blame for it.

But hey, one day I will wake up into the true nightmare of gaming... or maybe it will be a boom I don\'t know. that day there will be no independent retailers and all my orders will have to be done online. Forming players groups might be a you kjnow what, but hey... that is my personal nightmare. that is why I do go to stores and do demos and ghasp, teach kids how to paint... as in I preach what I practice, I practice what I preach... and yes I try to grow my hobby.

Too bad that incresingly, and please correct this impression I am getting, the younger generation of gamers is not willing to do this.

Nadin
 
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nadinbrzezinski

New member
Yeah WoTC is reorganizing

major time, in fact.

Now Chrispy obviously you are not the target for my post. But if you wonder why many brick and mortar retailers are goign away, partly is they do not know what they are doing. This is a problem with the retail side, I opened this to have some fun and play all day... what do you mean this is work?

That said, there are some good retailers out there, and you know what? One reason for them to go away is precisely because players are NOT willing to suport them with displayed armies or by doing demos. Yes this is a pet peeve of mine, why? As is the hobby, with some exceptions, (GW) is a static to negative growth hobby... and partly we, the hobbyists, have ourselves to blame for it.

But hey, one day I will wake up into the true nightmare of gaming... or maybe it will be a boom I don\'t know. that day there will be no independent retailers and all my orders will have to be done online. Forming players groups might be a you kjnow what, but hey... that is my personal nightmare. that is why I do go to stores and do demos and ghasp, teach kids how to paint... as in I preach what I practice, I practice what I preach... and yes I try to grow my hobby.

Too bad that incresingly, and please correct this impression I am getting, the younger generation of gamers is not willing to do this.

Nadin
 
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Death Jester

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Even if Games Workshop were the only retailer on earth and corner the market entirely, they are still very poor value for money.
 
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