Principal\'s Treatment Of Student Accused Of Theft

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beowulfthehunter

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Ah the simplicity of youth....god I wish I had problems like this at school, instead I deal with things like my 15 year old students being knocked up, beatings and assults in the all, weak will administrators.

Now I am a HS teacher so the problems I deal with are a great deal more complex with this. All I can say is if you had to deal with crap like this day after day you might snap and do something like this.

First, while fragile an 8 year old will bounce back from this provided she has parents who are loving and nurturing. If more kids had parents like this I might actully have less \"thugs\" in my classroom.

Was the principal (and the teacher mentioned concerning a Purple crayon) acted like tools they are not criminaly long. If anything this should be used as a teaching expereince. They should make public apologies, and discuss that people due mistakes and how to properly deal with them. Getting a lawyer and suing is not the answer. This should be a lession in forgiveness.
 
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Evil Dave

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Originally posted by beowulfthehunter
Ah the simplicity of youth....god I wish I had problems like this at school, instead I deal with things like my 15 year old students being knocked up, beatings and assults in the all, weak will administrators.

Now I am a HS teacher so the problems I deal with are a great deal more complex with this. All I can say is if you had to deal with crap like this day after day you might snap and do something like this.

First, while fragile an 8 year old will bounce back from this provided she has parents who are loving and nurturing. If more kids had parents like this I might actully have less \"thugs\" in my classroom.

Was the principal (and the teacher mentioned concerning a Purple crayon) acted like tools they are not criminaly long. If anything this should be used as a teaching expereince. They should make public apologies, and discuss that people due mistakes and how to properly deal with them. Getting a lawyer and suing is not the answer. This should be a lession in forgiveness.
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You see I could agree with you...if the principal had come out with a public apology immediately, she apologized to the parents privately, but now that it looks like she\'ll lose her job, a public apology would have no sincerity. An apology without sincerity is nothing, it is merely a \"Yeah, yeah, I got caught, let\'s drop it.\"
 
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Zora

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Okay, my 2 cents aren\'t over with, apparently.;)

I can tell you this DID affect me. My aforementioned experience has had an influence on my life, some good, some bad.

I was able to use the experience 3 weeks ago when our middle daughter came to visit. She was acting kinda wonky, and before we took her home, I had my wife check her bag. Turns out she took some articles of clothing, pens, and a couple of other things. From her sister.

This sister being my oldest, and deaf. Now she\'s very innocent to the ways of the world, and was shocked by this and hurt. I was able to take my previous experience and use it to calm her down, letting her know it wasn\'t her sister being mean, or not loving her...

I was then able to use it to my advantage when dealing with the middle sibling on the drive to take her back home. It\'s amazing what a gentle talk and discussion can do, even with a 10-yr old, rather than humiliation. My wife and I decided NOT to mention it to the child\'s grandparents, for fear it would ruin her chances at having fun for Halloween.

SaxonAngel, now I\'M starting to get teary-eyed!:(

So, some good came from all of this. Although I still have problems with accusations of stealing, cheating, etc.
 
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marineboy

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Any and all of us remeber the events that traumatized us back then. Sometimes bad things happen to children. Sometimes the the things are caused by those who should be protecting and nourishing those children.

This principle is acting in a completely unprofessional manner. If she\'s done this once, she\'s done it many times in her career. Fact of the matter is, she\'s harming those she has been charged with to protect and nuture.

Her head should go on the block. After they\'ve pulled it out of her butt, where it seems to be.




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Prophet

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Originally posted by Spacemunkie
Storm in a teacup.

Public apology from the Principal and a nice, holistic assembly telling the whole school that everyone makes mistakes.

Bob\'s yer uncle....:D

I just find it rather brutal to lynch someone for what may (not knowing her past history...) be a one off mistake. It\'s too easy to chuck away all those years experience and good work that may have gone into making her a principal.

It is not so easy to create someone with that wealth of experience. We are all human, and we all make mistakes. Unfortunately and increasingly we are not able to because of the unforgiving nature of the media.
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You wouldn\'y happen to be a Union rep would you?;)
 
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Swordwind

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Before I say anything else, did this kid actualy steal anything or did the teacher make a mistake? I read through the article but couldnt find anything.


Bet its on the first line...
 
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Brimshack

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Scarred for life is a definite possibility. So, is shrugging it off and getting on with life. When it comes to things like this, I think the details we don\'t know could make an aweful lot of difference one way or the other.

I do think that such a public effort to humiliate someone, child or otherwise, deserves an equally public and sincere apology. If someone slams me publically, a private apology is not going to cut the mustard. Under such circumstances, I think it\'s perfectly reasonable to expect the offending party to set the record strait in exactly the same fora in which they spread the initial message. I see no reason that a child should have to expect anything less.
 
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Evil Dave

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Welcome to the forums, Brimshack.
That\'s exactly the point I was trying to make, to me the fact that the principal did not make an immediate public apology, shows that she felt she did nothing wrong.
If she feels that there was nothing wrong with her actions, or that she is too good to apologize for those actions, then this is not the type of person I want setting an example for my children.
Of course, I\'m the old fashioned lead by example, rather than the do as I say, not as I do type.
 
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marineboy

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I doubt that a simple apology, no matter how public, would carry much weight with a hurt and scared child (a non-rational being) or with a hurt and angry parent (another non-rational being).

Stronger sanctions against the principal would be in order.
 
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Brimshack

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Thanks Evil Dave,

Just for the record, I don\'t think the apology should be simple at all. I think it should be made wit the same gravity as the initial act of humiliation. I also think that it should be accompanied with a request for foregiveness. The point here being to let the child know that her feelings are valued, and that wrongs against her will be treated with the same gravity as wrongs to her. It would also serve to restore her to good standing in the community wherein she was wronged, perhaps even giving her a reason to look after her newly restored good name. By asking for forgiveness you would also be putting her in a position of power, an unusual and potentially moving moment for a child, making it her choice as to whether or not the case is closed and everything is alright. Done correctly, that could be a very powerful and positive experience for her. Whether or not it would be enough to correct the damage is another question.


LOL, you know I really did come here to look at mini topics...
 
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