Procreate Epoxy

Aliengod3

Active member
I just want to know if anyone has used this particular epoxy. If so how does it compare to green stuff / brown stuff etc.
 
ive been using it to make the terror bird in the wip forum.

it is a truly lovely putty to work with, it is a bit sticky before you mix it and a little on the pricy side but its far superior to green stuff.

the texture is a bit like brown stuff, and it holds fine detail extremely well. its got a working life of about an hour and a half to two hours(with a 50/50 mix of both parts), but once it does start curing it rapidly becomes very stiff to use...ive found it only does this at the end of the workable period though.
it doesnt shrink back like GS does as it cures, though its not quite as sticky for joining minis together.

when its dry you can file/cut and drill it without much hassel, something which in green stuff pretty much destroys what you are doing.

it is pretty strong and if you vary the mixture of the two parts you can make it harder or softer depending on what you need it for

its definately worth the extra money for it.
 

freakinacage

Well-known member
i like it. i wouldn\'t say it\'s better than gs though. there is no \'one\' putty. i\'d reccomend buying a few and trying them. personally i like gs, procreate, apoxiesculpt, magic sculp and milliput. i use them all for diferent bits
 

Shawn R. L.

New member
I\'m still sold on Magic Sculpt - Love the properties and it\'s CHEAP!! PC is usable for some situations like small pieces from press molds. I can get the pieces out of the molds without chipping them. For me, the stuff always cures to a hard yet still flexible state which for most stuff I really don\'t like. It\'s hard to sculpt/sand once it\'s set up. \"Do-able\" but difficult. Don\'t like how incredibly sticky it is......I mean REAL sticky.
 

lahatiel

New member
Originally posted by Shawn R. L.
For me, the stuff always cures to a hard yet still flexible state which for most stuff I really don\'t like. It\'s hard to sculpt/sand once it\'s set up. \"Do-able\" but difficult. Don\'t like how incredibly sticky it is......I mean REAL sticky.

Play a bit with the color ratio of ProCreate and it loses most of the tackiness and becomes very sandable.
 

Shawn R. L.

New member
Originally posted by lahatiel
Play a bit with the color ratio of ProCreate and it loses most of the tackiness and becomes very sandable.

Which \'direction\' do I need to go in? More of the white or less?
 

mattsterbenz

New member
If I remember correctly the white part is the hardener. I have barely used my procreate though so I don\'t have much experience with it (older greenstuff to use up first).

-Matt
 

Einion

New member
Originally posted by Shawn R. L.
Originally posted by lahatiel
Play a bit with the color ratio of ProCreate and it loses most of the tackiness and becomes very sandable.
Which \'direction\' do I need to go in? More of the white or less?
Less hardener, more resin (whichever colours that means!)

Einion
 

Einion

New member
Mixing table

Kraftmark\'s page here with the info PDF. The mixing table from it is reproduced here on the Jeff Valent Studios site if you want it as a handy graphic. Probably the easiest way to remember is darker = softer, lighter = harder.

Looking at it though, did those working times get reversed...?

Einion
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
I have used it pretty much for all my sculpting for a while.. and I\'m not that impressed actually. Brown stuff, green stuff and milliput in different mixtures seeem to work better for me. Sure it\'s convenient that it has both green stuff properties and is sandable but it hardens too quickly for me and green stuff seem easier to do small detailing with. But in this matter I guess the taste differs much and I\'m not that accomplished as a sculptor.
 

lahatiel

New member
Yeah, more white = lighter color = harder, more sandable final result. I was probably using it at about the 60/40 white/black ratio and was pleased with its sandability, able to get a perfectly smooth transition from metal to putty as two sides of a smooth plane. These aren\'t the best pictures, as they were intended to illustrate other things than this, but here\'s where I was using that ratio to fill out lower torsos, rebuild thigh pads and elbows, etc.:

three.jpg


And after sanding and smoothing then primering, the metal-to-putty transition was invisible (to the touch, as well as sight):

height.jpg


The primered figures might look a tad rough, but that\'s because I\'d already played 5 games with the primered team, so it just got worn in spots before the primered pics were taken -- as well as the low-res photo quality of the pics themselves. You should be able to compare the middle figure in the top pic to its primered version (labeled 6\'3\"), though, on the torso and front-facing knee pad and see the transition (or lack thereof).

As for the working times on the chart Einon linked -- I agree something\'s doesn\'t look right there. But as I was only working with it so far on these types of smaller conversions, as opposed to full sculpts, I don\'t recall working with any mixed portion for more than an hour at a time, so it was never an issue for me.
 

Prophet

New member
I\'ve used PC quite a bit lately. I sometimes use it straight, but usually use it in about a 2:1 ratio mixed with Apoxie Sculpt,, depending on how much sandability I need. The sandability of PC stinks, even with 3:1 white/grey mixed (white improves the hardness). It\'s better than GS, but nowhere near the harder putties.

It\'s less sticky than GS and BS, but has slightly less working time. The advantage of the PC is that it starts off more firm than either of those, so you bpass the \"too sticky to do much with\" stage that you can sometimes run into with GS.
 

Prophet

New member
Originally posted by generulpoleaxe
i like a green stuff and milliput mix.
definately want to try the sculpting wax at some stage (i think it\'s fimo that gets used)

You\'re thinking of Polymer clays. Sculpting wax is a whole nother ball of.., uh, nevermind.
 

farseer oliver

New member
I\'ve been using Procreate for a few mths and I like the result of the work. But in certain area I prefer green stuff such as working life. Procreate tend to harden very fast.

For me, I use both Procreate and also Miliput. Well, different ppl different taste. You just have to try it out 1st.
 
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