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Did anyone see the Culture Show the other night with all of the miserable critics playing PS3 and the Wii?
The videos of them on the Wii were class, seeing grumpy gits like Mark Kermode and Paul Morley really into it and buzzing off playing it, then once back in the studio they just moaned like bitches as usual and went on about how there is no innovation and excitement. Well if that\'s the case why did they practically have errections bulging in their pants as they played the sports games?
The videos of them on the Wii were class, seeing grumpy gits like Mark Kermode and Paul Morley really into it and buzzing off playing it, then once back in the studio they just moaned like bitches as usual and went on about how there is no innovation and excitement. Well if that\'s the case why did they practically have errections bulging in their pants as they played the sports games?
I don\'t know about that.
I\'v always liked nitendo qualtiy wise, and they usually come up with some very inventive stuff. But the probleme is they never seem to quit come through on the game side. And this time dosn\'t seem like an exeption. The Wii is really attractive, but game wise it looks like it\'s way behind the other two. It\'s ok if you\'re into \'kid\' games and sports, but other then that it just dosn\'t have the offer that sony and microsoft have.
It\'s a pitty because on one hand you want to get this great looking console, and then you realize have the game you were looking foward too aren\'t on it.
Well that really depends what you look for in your games doesn\'t it? The games I look forward to are \'kid\' games. Zelda, Mario, all that lark. They don\'t give you a million and one ways to slaughter people, they don\'t let you drive a pimped out whip illeagally, they don\'t necessarily impress your mates after a night out clubbing, but they do offer far and away the best gameplay ever (well they have done on every other Nintendo system).Originally posted by frenchkid
But the probleme is they never seem to quit come through on the game side. And this time dosn\'t seem like an exeption. The Wii is really attractive, but game wise it looks like it\'s way behind the other two. It\'s ok if you\'re into \'kid\' games and sports, but other then that it just dosn\'t have the offer that sony and microsoft have.
It\'s a pitty because on one hand you want to get this great looking console, and then you realize have the game you were looking foward too aren\'t on it.
I completely agree with you that Nintendo won\'t blow the others out of the water of course. The mass market consumer buzzes off a game with kick ass looks like Gears of War, and there is nothing wrong with that, but I got tired of those sort of games a long while ago and want quirky and \'kid\' games!
I mean I can pick out so many essential titles (in my view) for the Gamecube, but struggle to come up with more than a couple for Xbox and PS2, but that didn\'t help em one jot when it came to sales.
The odd thing is that when it comes to handhelds people have no problem buying Nintendo\'s \'kid\' games in droves, but once you leap up to the big screen needs seem to change to kick ass graphics, big name licences and franchises, and processing power and additional hardware features.
Iono: I also like \'kid games ( for lack of a better word), because they usually are fun and relaxing to play. But I steel feel you don\'t get the same intensity with them. It\'s kinda like pixar movies, they\'re great to watch and I love them, but the end feeling isn\'t the same as when you\'ve just watched a kickass movie. And usually you can find some \'kid games\' on PS so game wise Ps stays a winner for me.
But If I ever can afford it I\'d have to get both
But If I ever can afford it I\'d have to get both
james sequeira
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As long as they release key titles on the Wii, and have shooters, fighters that you can use the funky controls on im happy.
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I reckon you lot are missing the point.
Sony are marketing their console at gamers.
Nintendo are marketing theirs at everybody. The new control system will make games more accessible and you are also getting loads of channels of freebie internet. It\'ll play Gamecube discs and you \'ll be able to download NES<SNES and Sega classics for next to nowt.
It\'s less than half the price of a PS3 and considerably cheaper than a 360.
I only ever bought an N64 and have always bought Sega, Playstation and Xbox. I\'m buying a Nintendo this time. I\'m bored with playing the same games year in, year out. The only way forward (other than scale and visuals from increased specs, but these don\'t do a great deal for gameplay) is in developing more intuitive methods of controlling games.
You also forget that many games came out on Gamecube as well. Resident Evil 4 came out on GC first and is the definitive version. You should also check out Wii\'s line up of initial games. Red Steel, the new Zelda and Trauma Centre all look pretty \'grown up\' to me.
There may be great games that won\'t be available on Wii, but I reckon there\'ll be a lot of absolutely revolutionary ones not available on PS3 or 360...
Sony are marketing their console at gamers.
Nintendo are marketing theirs at everybody. The new control system will make games more accessible and you are also getting loads of channels of freebie internet. It\'ll play Gamecube discs and you \'ll be able to download NES<SNES and Sega classics for next to nowt.
It\'s less than half the price of a PS3 and considerably cheaper than a 360.
I only ever bought an N64 and have always bought Sega, Playstation and Xbox. I\'m buying a Nintendo this time. I\'m bored with playing the same games year in, year out. The only way forward (other than scale and visuals from increased specs, but these don\'t do a great deal for gameplay) is in developing more intuitive methods of controlling games.
You also forget that many games came out on Gamecube as well. Resident Evil 4 came out on GC first and is the definitive version. You should also check out Wii\'s line up of initial games. Red Steel, the new Zelda and Trauma Centre all look pretty \'grown up\' to me.
There may be great games that won\'t be available on Wii, but I reckon there\'ll be a lot of absolutely revolutionary ones not available on PS3 or 360...
And I reckon that you completely overestimate the demand that ‘everybody’ has for any kind of console, no matter how accessible it is.
There is a particular market for consoles and games right now. It’s still the same as it has been since PS came out - 20somethings with large amounts of disposable income and to a lesser extent parents buying for their kiddies.
For Wii to be the most successful of the next generation consoles it has to either appeal to the market that exists now, or completely change the mass market’s opinion of games systems.
Computer gaming, despite being regarded very differently to what it was 10 or even 5 years ago, still has a stigma attached to it. Most of society still sees it as a fairly puerile and pointless pastime. The average adult is not going to see the innovation of the Wii controller and decide that somehow they now need one in their life. They may find it briefly intriguing, but it’s not going to sell it to them.
Sony have done the quirky thing with a lot of titles already. There is their I-toy, dance games, Buzz! All are successful enough, and have sold some consoles for them but more than that they extended the life of their old machines. GTA has sold a hell of a lot more machines than all those innovative and accessible titles put together.
All the evidence I’ve seen from past launches shows that price has very little effect on sales at launch. A console launch is about levels of desire, and as the crazy ebay prices for PS3 show there is massive demand. I’ll be surprised if you even se Wii sell out to be honest.
Because the audience for game systems is people with a large amount of disposable income it doesn\'t matter so much either. If they want it they will pay for it. Likewise, if a parent’s kids want something they will pay for it.
Well I don’t forget, I’m like a fricking elephant when it comes to anything Nintendo related. Red Steel, yes, that’s a mass appeal grown up game, but Zelda and Trauma Centre? These aren’t the games that your average chav will queue for at midnight, and that’s what the Wii needs to be a success (unless there is the aforementioned turnaround of mass opinion on computer gaming).
Quite true, and it’s why I’ll get a Wii, but exactly the same was true for the N64. That controller paved the way for titles like Mario, Zelda, Goldeneye, etc. All phenomenal games, but the N64 was pounded by the PS and its generic games. I know that N64 had other problems, but at the end of the day quality and innovation don’t sell consoles. Not in the UK or US at least.
And it’s not that I hate Nintendo and want them to fail. Quite the opposite, I love them, they have always made my favourite consoles and games. I just completely disagree with your opening statement there.
I would say it is more:
Sony are marketing their console at the proven social group that spend money on Sony consoles.
Nintendo are not really thinking about marketing yet again, they are just making the system that will be far and away the best games machine. They know the Japanese will love it because they have fine taste, elsewhere they make enough money off their handhelds that it isn’t a problem!
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It wasn\'t so long ago that Sega was the belle of the ball in the western console market.
One console later and it had all gone tits up. Nintendo will challenge Sony this time around. Sony will certainly lose market share this time around and I\'m pretty sure that sales of Wii will be in a different league to those of GC.
As you say, you\'re going to buy one. So am I, and I have never really got on with Ninty software (apart from Goldeneye and Mariokart). You\'ll find a lot of people will be doing the same.
There\'s no way I\'m paying £350-£450 for a games console. Hardcore fans only I\'m afraid.
One console later and it had all gone tits up. Nintendo will challenge Sony this time around. Sony will certainly lose market share this time around and I\'m pretty sure that sales of Wii will be in a different league to those of GC.
As you say, you\'re going to buy one. So am I, and I have never really got on with Ninty software (apart from Goldeneye and Mariokart). You\'ll find a lot of people will be doing the same.
There\'s no way I\'m paying £350-£450 for a games console. Hardcore fans only I\'m afraid.
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That\'s what I\'m suggesting it may do. Don\'t underestimate the new controller.
if something i have learned since the ZX spectrum release is that you should never buy a system in ist first year of life.
back in the day the best games were delivered by Sega and since starting flooding market with stupid gadjects and only making so few games for it it was a easy prey for emerging sony that obliterated competition... even if less imaginative or creative than nintendo or sega, sony appealed to the casual gamer (masses)...
Today Sony is a well establish videogame system/dvd/etc that every family wants in their homes and is controling almost all areas of gaming (even the more hardcoregamer things) xbox never got many fans or even exclusive decent relevant games, nintendo survived because they keept their originality but unlike sega they had gameboy to support their fall...
so what future holds? all new gen systems will pricedrop in their first years so by then its easy to choose the one with games that appeal more to me... but i have little doubts Sony will be again the dominant system... meanwile im playing PS2 since im still only 10% or less on the games i play hehe
back in the day the best games were delivered by Sega and since starting flooding market with stupid gadjects and only making so few games for it it was a easy prey for emerging sony that obliterated competition... even if less imaginative or creative than nintendo or sega, sony appealed to the casual gamer (masses)...
Today Sony is a well establish videogame system/dvd/etc that every family wants in their homes and is controling almost all areas of gaming (even the more hardcoregamer things) xbox never got many fans or even exclusive decent relevant games, nintendo survived because they keept their originality but unlike sega they had gameboy to support their fall...
so what future holds? all new gen systems will pricedrop in their first years so by then its easy to choose the one with games that appeal more to me... but i have little doubts Sony will be again the dominant system... meanwile im playing PS2 since im still only 10% or less on the games i play hehe
It wouldn\'t surprise me if Sony only released 1000 PS3s and they are actually the ones selling them one EBAy. Do people realize what a High End Computer system goes for? As far as the amazing Wii controller, wait til the game Playboy Mansion ports over and see if it comes with a realistic vibrating function.
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Got my Wii pre ordered. Can\'t wait
I disagree with the pricedrop comment...NONE of these systems have pricedropped anything significant after their release. Even when the new version comes out (like 360), Xbox didn\'t drop but maybe $20-$30 a system, which is MAYBE a 10% savings, just like you don\'t see many sales at Xmas time on the systems.
Sure, you see BUNDLES, where they offer you the system and 5 or so games for a discount, but that\'s only because the games themselves can be discounted to any degree.
Still not paying $500-600 for a VIDEOGAME console! I mean seriously, ouch!
Sure, you see BUNDLES, where they offer you the system and 5 or so games for a discount, but that\'s only because the games themselves can be discounted to any degree.
Still not paying $500-600 for a VIDEOGAME console! I mean seriously, ouch!
Torn blue sky
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After sitting back and watching the arguments, I have to say i\'m rather swayed by the Wii :yes:
By and far its the best console for fun multiplay, and I love that kinda thing too.
Mariocart anyone???
By and far its the best console for fun multiplay, and I love that kinda thing too.
Mariocart anyone???
Angel7Slayer
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sorry to say, wii is gonna have to come out with a lot of new games if its gonna persuade me to buy one...originally I was going to purchase both the PS3 and wii but now im not so sure about the latter :~(
