PVA glue Horror! Hellllp, somebody!

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usurpator

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Horror: I\'ve spent a lot of time on a small Samurai building, and for the first time I\'ve dared do climbing (clinging? my english fails me) wines and bushes, and straw in the building (it\'s an open stable).
I did that with pva glue a month ago, so ok I did put too much glue, but a month later..... IT\'S STILL NOT DRY!!!!!:cussing:
Can I speed up the drying somehow? Is it dangerous for the paint? I did put the thing in the sun but... well I live in London, nough said :-D
Thanks for any info!!!
I\'ve learned my lesson!!! Now I must repair my mistakes
 
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PegaZus

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Originally posted by usurpator
climbing ... wines
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I love climbing wines. They\'re so uplifting when drunk. [end obligatory funny misspelling abuse]

I had this problem too once, and I just left it be because it was now \"murky\" water instead of clear.

Somebody may have other ideas, but you might need to stick it with a pin several times in order to get the air to it. And I\'m not sure that will work either. Might try to unglue it and start over.
 
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The whole wall where the vine is (whine, waeeeen.... oh, you get my point :p), the bushes (very tiny ones) and the haystack at the front of the inside (do I make sense?) of the stable are all sticky - I guess I tried and seale it with glue before waiting for the lower levels of glue to be dry... but the air get to the surface of it all.

:cussing: I hate english spelling..... I hate even more french spelling! I\'m french but I just can\'t deal with it:drunk:
 
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DaN

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Layers matey :D Layers!
I love PVA personally - it\'s great for so many things.

Yes - it does sound like you used too much at once.

PVA, if you use just a thin spread onto the area you want to stick something, should be touch dry within minutes.

Once the piece is holding itself (ie - won\'t drop off due to gravity) is when I usually apply more PVA around the edges to provide a bit more stability.

Imagine it like you are using concrete/cement. You use the preliminary thin coat to stick whatever like the mortar of bricks or whatever, then you shore up this once dry with a thicker layer around the edges like concrete.

I wouldn\'t use PVA however for anything heavier than thick card on it\'s own though.

If I were using it to stick woods (even balsa) or anything heavier, I would also reinforce with nails/ pinning, etc etc etc
 
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War Griffon

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From what you have said about the glue being sticky it sounds very much like you may not have used PVA at all but something different???

Pva normally dries very well even when put on liberally and if you put it on too thick then the top will dry and will not be sticky.

It sounds like you may have used Woodland Scenics Hob-e-tac instead as that stuff is designed to be sticky and is used for vines and long grass etc???

I have never known PVA to be sticky before.
 
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Originally posted by War Griffon

It sounds like you may have used Woodland Scenics Hob-e-tac instead as that stuff is designed to be sticky and is used for vines and long grass etc???
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RAAAAAAAH oh my GGGGGOD! I thought it was PVA!!!
I DID use hoby-tac!!!!

WHAT DO I DO???????????? (yes, I\'m shouting - what an idiot I am, I\'m furious!) Varnish it, commit seppuku???

Help, I\'m a very stupid girl:|~:|~
 
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War Griffon

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I think you have two options really as putting anything on top of it such as varnish will probably make matters worse.

This therefore leaves you with NSA\'s suggestion of adding more vines etc, or instead of more vines wodland scenics also do little coloured things which can act as fruit or berries so you could also add some of these.

Alternatively carefully remove the hob-e-tac from where it is not wanted. according to the bottle it is water soluble so shouldn\'t be too difficult to remove.
 
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The problem is that the vine (spelling? argh) aand the low bushes around the stable and also the mini stack of hay in the building are soaked with hoby-tac! :-C
I like your suggestion of adding more vines, but will I be able to spray varnish on it afterwards?
QUESTION: when people use hoby-tac for their train scenery, what then , are they supposed to leave it like that, tacky forever and collecting dust, or do they seal it somehow?
Many thanks NSA - your idea sounds like the thing to do, but it\'s the \"after\" that worries me.

U. (MA of Idiocy, East-Anglia)
 
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matty1001

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I have this crazy steroetypical image of a petite French woman, running around a spacious, modern flat shouting,
\"Ahhh look at eet! Eet is sheet! I tought I was using PVA But no, eet ees Hobby Tac! Ahhhh\"

And of course you are wearing a beret, have a palette in one hand, a brush in the other, and a baguette in your mouth.
 
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usurpator

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Originally posted by matty1001
And of course you are wearing a beret, have a palette in one hand, a brush in the other, and a baguette in your mouth.
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You forget the garlic! I always carry gralic around (could that explain my avatar choice??lol)
I\'m almost 6 feet tall and trained in martial arts and Zen meditation... Sorry I don\'t quite fit the bill :twisted::twisted:
 
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Roger Bunting

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I\'ve had a look around, and you could coat the thing in actual pva, maybe. Antenocit\'s Workshop has some modelling tips. This one may be useful. It\'s part 10 I\'m referring to.
 
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matty1001

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Originally posted by usurpator
Originally posted by matty1001
And of course you are wearing a beret, have a palette in one hand, a brush in the other, and a baguette in your mouth.
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You forget the garlic! I always carry gralic around (could that explain my avatar choice??lol)
I\'m almost 6 feet tall and trained in martial arts and Zen meditation... Sorry I don\'t quite fit the bill :twisted::twisted:
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lol and a blue and white stripey top!

Wiping croissant crumbs off the kitchen counter with your forearms!
 
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Originally posted by Roger Bunting
I\'ve had a look around, and you could coat the thing in actual pva, maybe. Antenocit\'s Workshop has some modelling tips. This one may be useful. It\'s part 10 I\'m referring to.
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Oh this sounds very interesting - I\'m going to study their website and that page! many thankks!!
**MATTY1001** I should also say \"ooh lala!\" all the time and eat fries - fries are a Belgian thing, I wonder why theya re called french fries ???
 
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DaN

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... And that \"a-hau-hee-hau-hee-hau\" noise... lol

Matty - I can\'t help but feel that get ALL your knowledge of the outside world from Fools and horses :rolleyes:
 
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usurpator

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Originally posted by matty1001
And never go to work, because you are to busy making love and cakes!
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The two things at the same time? Waoo, the French have an even better reputation than I thought! :bouncy:
 
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