Rust

[Kinetic man]

I\'m looking into doing a new rust effect on my metal minis instead of layered washes and dull-coats over a metallic coat just to achieve something similar.
I still plan on starting with a black base coat, but now I\'d like to go over it with browns and/or reds before moving onto metallics for newer styled parts and details. I know enough about layering and dry brushing to get the effect I want. The problem is I\'m unsure of what color to lay down on top of that to set the tone for the rest.
Ideally I\'d like to get a finished color similar to that of rusted iron on the \"worn\" areas. Any advice is appreciated.

 

[obsidianpainting]

Umm. I tend not to do \"rust\" under the metallics. As metallics are flaky and will just cover up the nice paint job you just did!

So heres how i would do it. Paint your metallic area. Then, using normal acrylic paints. \"your browns\" then apply that as you would blending or washing. hopefully that helps?

 

[obsidianpainting]

Here, maybe this will help



Gary.

 

[Dragonsreach]

There are several techniques available but one of the most easy is \"Stippling\" very similar to drybrushing but instead of going round in small circles you move the brush up and down onto the \'target area\'.

Use use a dark brown GW Scorched Brown or Vallejo Burnt Umber as the darkest, then work up GW Bestial or VMC Mahogany Brown finish with GW Snakebite or Vallejo Red Leather.

 

[freakinacage]

the best effect i have seen is also the easiest. paint the metal as normal then apply pigment (ground up pastels will do) to the rusty areas. it adds some texture as well which keeps it realistic. turps is enough to bind it

or if you insist onpaint, have a look at jah\'s goblin, it\'s got some nice rust on it.

 

[Mourner]

Although not really a pro painter, i might have some advice.

I can think of four ways to paint rust:

1) apply a drybrush of Bestial brown, and/or fiery orange over a black basecoat, then drybrush metal paint over it.
This gives a simple idea of rust on a tabletop level IMO

2) stipple browns and/or oranges over a metallic coat, using a rough sponge, or that foam you get in blisterpacks.
Haven\'t tried this one myself, but it should achieve pretty realistic effects.

3) apply a wash of brown and/or orange over a metallic coat
mostly straight forward, the quality depends on how much time you invest, and the number of layers.

4) as method 3, only you paint the rust where you want it.
IMO better for higher quality models, because you have more control over the effect.

 

[Einion]

Originally posted by Kinetic man
I still plan on starting with a black base coat, but now I\'d like to go over it with browns and/or reds before moving onto metallics for newer styled parts and details.

Sounds like a good plan; I tend to paint heavily-oxidised bronze something like this.

Originally posted by Kinetic man
I know enough about layering and dry brushing to get the effect I want. The problem is I\'m unsure of what color to lay down on top of that to set the tone for the rest.

Experiment!

Originally posted by Kinetic man
Ideally I\'d like to get a finished color similar to that of rusted iron on the \"worn\" areas. Any advice is appreciated.

Rusted iron/steel can be many many different colours, see this post from pF.

Einion

 

[Kinetic man]

Hopefully I can actually post a reply today...

Anyway if this does post thanks for all the help everyone. I just wasn\'t sure what colors to pick up since I didn\'t have a lot of earth tones, and the few browns I did have weren\'t cutting it. All that\'s left to do now is mix and layer until I find the color effect I really want.
And yes Gary those pics really did help. What I was doing with the washes could generate an effect like what was in the second picture there, but what I wanted was more akin to the forth.

 

[arogers907]

Originally posted by Dragonsreach
There are several techniques available but one of the most easy is \"Stippling\"...

I think this is the way to go if you truly do want to do rust effects quickly.

Paint your metallics (either true metallics or NMM) and then stipple colors. The paints DR suggested are perfect. If you don\'t have those, I\'ve found people often have a good variety of flesh colors. Any of the darker flesh colors translate quite nicely to rust. The obvious one is GW\'s Dark Flesh, but any of the paint lines that I\'ve tried have something similar.

Anyway... good luck and post WIPs. =)

 

[Kester]

Quick and easy. Paint area boltgun metal. Wash with Badab Black. Stipple Bestial Brown (I use the sponge from blister packs), Stipple Blazing Orange, then stipple Mithril Silver. Finaly wash with Gryphonne Sepia. Here is the heretical bit that will most likely get me shot (!) When doing this do NOT thin your paints. Rust is as much about texture as it is about colour.
Here is an example of the finished product.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/210311

For Tabletop standard this is a great method. If you use a hairdryer to dry the model between coats the whole process takes about 10 mins.

 

[Kinetic man]

Originally posted by Kester
Quick and easy. Paint area boltgun metal. Wash with Badab Black. Stipple Bestial Brown (I use the sponge from blister packs), Stipple Blazing Orange, then stipple Mithril Silver. Finaly wash with Gryphonne Sepia. Here is the heretical bit that will most likely get me shot (!) When doing this do NOT thin your paints. Rust is as much about texture as it is about colour.
Here is an example of the finished product.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/210311

For Tabletop standard this is a great method. If you use a hairdryer to dry the model between coats the whole process takes about 10 mins.

I\'ll have to try that too. I\'m not worried about breaking out the hair dryer either since I usually paint around four table top guys at a time which lets me rotate for drying time.
By the way, nice Ork. And I\'m not one for Orks.

 

[Dragonsreach]

Originally posted by Kester
Quick and easy. Paint area boltgun metal. Wash with Badab Black. Stipple Bestial Brown (I use the sponge from blister packs), Stipple Blazing Orange, then stipple Mithril Silver. Finaly wash with Gryphonne Sepia. Here is the heretical bit that will most likely get me shot (!) When doing this do NOT thin your paints. Rust is as much about texture as it is about colour.

I\'d agree with you on the colours, BUT I\'d say thin your darkest colours and leave the lightest undiluted or you could end up with too much texture in the rust.