Scibor\'s sculpting technique...?
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You need:
The ability to create 3D designs via a computer program that you will later use on the armour areas of the model.
A 3D printer, which turns these designs into presses (solid stamps used for detailing the Green Stuff). This isn\'t cheep at all as far as I\'m aware.
Green Stuff made into thin sheets, which then has the press patterns applied to it, then these are stuck over areas of the model to add the intricate filigree details.
And let\'s not forget the traditional sculpting ability he has for all sorts of other areas on the miniatures.
Oh yeah, and thick skin. People jealous of all this effort constantly moan about it \'not being real sculpting\' so if you do this too be prepared!
I think the real hurdle to start off with is do you have something available to you that you can use to create the presses?
You can do this without a computer, but it lacks the precision of a Scibor effort.
Search the forums for \'presses\' and you should probably find something here. There may even be some stuff in the articles section of the site.
The ability to create 3D designs via a computer program that you will later use on the armour areas of the model.
A 3D printer, which turns these designs into presses (solid stamps used for detailing the Green Stuff). This isn\'t cheep at all as far as I\'m aware.
Green Stuff made into thin sheets, which then has the press patterns applied to it, then these are stuck over areas of the model to add the intricate filigree details.
And let\'s not forget the traditional sculpting ability he has for all sorts of other areas on the miniatures.
Oh yeah, and thick skin. People jealous of all this effort constantly moan about it \'not being real sculpting\' so if you do this too be prepared!
I think the real hurdle to start off with is do you have something available to you that you can use to create the presses?
You can do this without a computer, but it lacks the precision of a Scibor effort.
Search the forums for \'presses\' and you should probably find something here. There may even be some stuff in the articles section of the site.
I had wrote a big reply, but then CMoN stopped loading and i lost it.
I used to use Corel Draw to create the designs, then send the files to a laser cutter which would cut or engrave wood or plastic.
The laser cutter will not be cheap, but if you can find a local school or buisness with one they might let you use it.
I used to use Corel Draw to create the designs, then send the files to a laser cutter which would cut or engrave wood or plastic.
The laser cutter will not be cheap, but if you can find a local school or buisness with one they might let you use it.
johnboyjjb
Active member
And who doesn\'t have 2 grand laying about looking to get spent on minis?
Okay, thanx for so far! Is there any possibility to create those presses without a computer or 3D-printer? I don\'t need that much precision, I just wanted to greate some cool parts (such as power armour shoulder pad extensions, shields, and leg armour) with ornaments on them to add them to several models...
Originally posted by Ritual
Cyril Abati has written a tutorial on how to create your own press molds without the use of expensive equipment. Someone will most likely be able to provide you with a link.
Typical of a brushlicker. Letting others do the hard work for them
Sonnyslayer
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Way to go Anders!
Maybe we can make him dance?:]
Maybe we can make him dance?:]
!!!
to further the details...
Scibor has never mentioned which model of digital milling machine he has...but the range is about $2000 to $20000.
I would love to get a $2000 to $3000 version but....being broke right is not a good thing
And would have to ensure a lot of other stuff is covered, with being married and all now *sigh*
Sanjay
to further the details...
Scibor has never mentioned which model of digital milling machine he has...but the range is about $2000 to $20000.
I would love to get a $2000 to $3000 version but....being broke right is not a good thing
And would have to ensure a lot of other stuff is covered, with being married and all now *sigh*
Sanjay
freakinacage
Well-known member
Originally posted by StarFyre
with being married and all now *sigh*
it\'s a hard life eh, sanjay?!!
anyone ever translated that article? my french is crap
emopainterguy
New member
I dont know how close to cryils article this is (my french is attrocious...); but here is how I\'ve done it in the past (paired up with cyrils pictures and I think you can figure it out hopefully):
Seems to be a common question lately...
Originally posted by emopainterguy
Ok I\'ve had moderate success with this a while back... Theres a good tutorial somewhere but I have absolutely no idea where it is (and its french). Heres how I did it.
1. Sketch the shape of the armor plate on paper, cut it out and make sure it fits where you want it to.
2. tape the cut out paper to some sort of thicker plastic (plasticard, or even something like a plastic margarine/butter container lid).
3. cut out the plastic in the shape of paper sketch
4a. Use an air curing modelling clay (milliput works best I hear), make a block larger than your plastic shape, and press it into the surface of the milliput, and let it cure, and remove the plastic shape after (or before if you are careful)
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4b. Use a bakeable clay (sculpy or fimo), make a block larger than your plastic shape, and press it into the surface of the clay, remove the plastic shape carefully. Bake the clay as instructed on the package
5. Take your cured block and sketch the design you want to have raised on the suface in pencil.
6. using a sharp tool (any cutting tool will work but one with a v shaped blade will be best) carve out the lines you sketched. You can also use a pin vise to make small holes that serve as bolts.
7. Once youve carved out all the lines you\'ll need to lubricate your block mold (canola or vegetable oil works best I find), mix some green stuff and press it into the mold so that its flush with the top of the block.
8. Wait 30 min to an hour for the green stuff to start to cure, remove it carefully from the mold and you can apply it to the model now, it should still have a little bend to it so you can shape it to the surface you are applying it to (but be carefull not to mash your details).
Heres one of the things I made a year or so ago (barding for GW skeletal horses):
You could probably make the mold with greenstuff too but i think it gets a little trickier to do it that way. There a couple different ways you can vary the technique but thats the easiest way I think.
Its also worth noting you can do text this way too, but remember to reverse it or it\'ll come out backwards on you.
Hope I\'ve helped a little.
Seems to be a common question lately...
CrookedEye
Fear the Crooked Eye
Originally posted by StarFyre
to further the details...
Scibor has never mentioned which model of digital milling machine he has...but the range is about $2000 to $20000.
I would love to get a $2000 to $3000 version but....being broke right is not a good thing
And would have to ensure a lot of other stuff is covered, with being married and all now *sigh*
Sanjay
I think I read he uses a machine at work, but if he had paid 3k for it, he\'s made way more than that from the results.
Zach
I\'m sorry but, \'all this effort\'? Yes, I suppose you could say I am a bit jealous. He manages to convince people to buy his (for the most part) hastily assembled conversions, complete with all this effectively printed detail. They often go for more than a miniature with full production rights, regardless of finish, skill, or whatever. One the one hand, you have something you can mass produce and sell, on the other you have a heartless reproduction which you can paint. Just paint. Be sure to clean off the mould lines, though, because Scibor probably won\'t have done.
He\'s also a proven thief, but that\'s another matter.
generulpoleaxe
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don\'t think that\'s on nexus.
forum rules state no personal attacks.
someone just wanted to know how scibor does his molds.
forum rules state no personal attacks.
someone just wanted to know how scibor does his molds.
AinuLainour
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Just kidding buddy, but I think calling somebody a thief is a pretty serious accusation.
I\'m awfully sorry to say, but it\'s a fact, not an accusation. The whole copying of GW parts, etc.
Don\'t want to steer this thread off topic, so I\'ll just apologise to people who might be offended by what I posted. I suppose I\'m too used to Frothers.
Edit: And the whole Scibor thing just gets my goat, I\'m not normally this much of a goon.
Don\'t want to steer this thread off topic, so I\'ll just apologise to people who might be offended by what I posted. I suppose I\'m too used to Frothers.
Edit: And the whole Scibor thing just gets my goat, I\'m not normally this much of a goon.
