Scorch marks and powder burns

atacam

New member
Has anyone got any idea how to go about painting gunpowder burns etc?
I\'ve thought about stippling, but even using a very fine brush I think the specks would look too chunky. Using a wash seems like it would be too smooth.
Anyone?
 

Skrit

Member
Interesting question! I know that there are some powders out there you can use for what you want, but haven\'t found them in my area yet, I\'ll let you know if I find some.

Edited twice for very bad grammar! :rolleyes:
 

Fizl

Secret Crocodile
I\'ve never personally tried it for this but vallejo smoke is very grainy. Maybe this will work to your advantage here?

Shaz
 

Equus

New member
Originally posted by airhead
very small airbrush (Iwata HP-B or CM)

Heh...might be the only time it would be useful for an airbrush to not cover even. Course if it spat too much, you\'d run into the same stiple problem from brushes.

Maybe you could *GASP*...drybrush.

Oh...lookit what you did...you made me say the \"D\" word. Seriously, maybe stipling with an uneven drybrush would work. I haven\'t really tried that though.
 

Einion

New member
Out of curiosity where exactly do you want to do this (surface, colour etc.)? I\'ve done weathering a couple of times that would be equivalent to powder burns in look but how I might approach it would depend to some extent on the material represented.

In general tight, low-pressure spraying with an airbrush will work excellently if you have one and the surface isn\'t too complex, you can also use \'glazes\' (thin, layered buildup) to do this quite easily if you\'re patient.

Originally posted by atacam
I\'ve thought about stippling, but even using a very fine brush I think the specks would look too chunky.
Well there\'s stippling and there\'s stippling, it doesn\'t have to be that rough looking :)

One thing you might try is a combination of very gentle stippling - soft brush, used damp with very little paint - with glazing used over it to soften the effect afterwards if you think it needs it. I\'ll often do something like this to build up an effect so it\'s not obvious how it was done.

Einion
 

Chrispy

Active member
The new way I\'ve found is blending in the black to whatever color smoothly, then using the intermidate colors used for blending on parts where they shouldn\'t be. This maked it looks textured and corroded, but the \"D\" word is still the best for quick and dirty jobs! :p
 

Trevor

Brushlicker and Freak!
I should have looked at this earlier, the answer is:

Pastels

The chalky ones (in fact chalk would work as well). Simply mix the pastel with a little ink or very thin paint and stipple on. You can experiment with different colours of pastel and ink to get the effect you want.

An alternative not available to most people would be very very fine sand. I work with sediments, so can get very fine sand easily, simply mix with paint. (By fine I mean like 100um, not the sort of stuff you get off the beach).
 

Shawn R. L.

New member
Doing a dry brush with an artist\'s oil base paint comes out smoother than airbrush. Gently brushing on chalk or pastels works too.
 

Corpuscle

New member
Atacam was asking on my behalf (first time posting here for me). I was after getting a sooty blackened effect on a gunblade thing held by a Rackham Temple purifier. The gun barrel meets a bayonet and I was thinking of ways to make it look burnt.

About pastels, how well do they adhere?
I\'m assuming they need fixing on.
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
Corpuscle, welcome to the forums.


About pastels, how well do they adhere?
I\'m assuming they need fixing on.
Yes, you can powder up the pastels on a bit of sandpaper (emery board) and brush them on... Model railroaders do this for grease and rust and dirt. Next step is to put a clear coat over it. Hold way back on the can a fog the mini. Spray too close and the chalk dust will blow off.
 

Trevor

Brushlicker and Freak!
Thats why you mix the pastels with ink or paint, helps it to adhere.

If you are just dusting it on you will need to fix it.

I have found though that for scenery weathering it stays put pretty well in crevices and doesn\'t really need fixing.
 

Einion

New member
Originally posted by airhead
Yes, you can powder up the pastels on a bit of sandpaper (emery board) and brush them on...
Scraping with a sharp blade is a better idea IMO (and much faster if you want a fair bit of it) if you use sandpaper you stand the risk of some abrasive particles being included in the dust, which I discovered by experience - not good for your paint lemme tell ya! :D

Originally posted by Trevor
Thats why you mix the pastels with ink or paint, helps it to adhere.
Yep, although you can wet it with water (mineral spirits too) apply it wet and when it dries it returns to its dusty appearance - useful for simulating mud splatters that have since dried.

Corpuscle, pastel dust clings reasonably well if applied to matt paint, particularly when applied wet, as long as you\'re not handling the figure after. If you do intend to handle the mini you really need to clearcoat but that\'s a risk, as too heavy a coat will make the dusty effect almost disappear.

Einion
 
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