scratches on red armour

[Wootton]

hi, i am in the process of painting a unit of blood angels space marines, and i want to make them look battle hardened and damaged, so the question is should i do mettalic scratches or nmm ones, and if nmm i have seen others shade them differnt colour, like brown, so basiclly i want a guide if possible to doing them, and if anyone has any pics that would be great, your help is much appreciated.

thanks, paul.

 

[emopainterguy]

I have done some Blood Ravens with scratches and battle damage. I\'m not entirely sure that you mean by metallic and non metallic scratches? do you mean wear that shows metal, or just scratches? For plain scratches i just use a straight black ink to make the line where I want the scratch and then underline it with a thin line of white. If you want metal to be showing I would paint the armor normally, and then I would carefully drybrush black where you want the metal to be showing through and then carefully try drybrush boltgun inside the blackened area and then maybe stipple lighter metallics over it.

Here\'s an example of my scratches on red:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/155878

 

[Keifer113]

I\'ve just spent an hour trying this ( painting black then underlining with white)

and it looks like I painted black and white lines on my figure heh heh.

 

[Einion]

Originally posted by Wootton
...so the question is should i do mettalic scratches or nmm ones...

You don\'t have to do either - the armour doesn\'t have to be made of metal, does it?

If you did want to represent scratches on steel, IRL sometimes they don\'t really look metallic but more a dull grey or brown/grey. The only obvious areas where it\'s clearly metal and shiny/reflective show at high-friction areas like edges.

Einion

 

[Bengoodall]

So thats how you did that damage, Im very impressed with that emo.

Hadnt realised it was quite that simple.

I like it, gives an idea of depth to them.

But I think wootens talking about not being decided between doing the damage in nmm, or in real paint.

I think it depends on how you want them to look, and what you think the armour of space marines is actually made of, the fluff seems to point towards a ceramic/metal alloy of some kind, so you could go anywhere from heated/rusted/clean edged metal, to a broken/chipped/dirty ceramic look to the base elements in the armour.

NMM would depend on your choice there.

Otherwise, if your going with a plain metal look, just a simple light silver colour, as most (MOST) alloys are normally a light colour.

 

[emopainterguy]

@Bengoodall: Thanks for the comment, it\'s actually a fairly common technique and there are others who do it far better than me.

@Keifer113: It takes time and practice to get right. I remember my first attempts looked like I had painted zebra stripes on my marine lol... Just keep practicing and use a fine detail brush, and make sure you water down the white or you\'ll surely run into problems.

@einion: Good point about the scratches not necessarily looking metallic, try googling tank battle damage or some such thing. Here are some pictures I took at the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa about a year ago:

As for the question of whether to use NMM or Metallics its up to you. The armor, as Bengoodall indicated, is made of ceramite, some sort of ceramic/metal composite. I gave a simple technique for scratches as well as metallic wear but not for NMM. here\'s a simple tutorial for NMM scratches/wear by Shawn R.L. http://www.coolminiornot.com/article/aid/455
Hope this helps in some way.

 

[alextheartist]

i usually just take the colour i have painted that area and add some black for the shaded part, then do the same for the underline but instead of adding black i add a lighter colour eg shade scoreched brown on bestiel brown base, then highlight with something like bestiel/snakebite leather?