SE Chrome, need help please!

[Jericho]

Hey all, I\'m planning a very cool ocean style Baharroth model and the color scheme promises to be quite impressive. Now, I\'ve got a good deal of chrome on this fig and I\'ve never done it before... most of the parts I can figure out but there\'s one that is just destroying my brain.

The sky is light blue, the \"earth\" is a darker blue with a green tint, to represent the sea. Now... could someone please Photoshop or otherwise edit this pic so I have some idea how to get the chrome effect working on this bit of his gun?

It\'s two cylindrical gun barrels, sort of fused at the base, and at a 45 degree angle. I\'ve tried several times in Photoshop to get the horizon to look decent on this piece and no luck so far

BTW Here\'s my Photoshop mockup of the color scheme... edited the hell out of some random guy\'s picture from a Google search (no good Baharroths on CMoN... yet!) The base will be Ocean waves, with his foot trailing through the water a bit so I can actually attach him to the base and all that goodness lol BTW the gold on the wings will be chrome as well, I didn\'t bother to do that in chrome because I\'ll be painting the wings separately and I\'ll have time to figure them out some time later. The bone may stay bone, or might become SENMM gold, we\'ll see.

Thanks for any help you can offer

 

[Arjay]

Regardless of the angle, if an object is cylindrical the horizon line will run the length of the cylinder. In the link provided, numbers 2 and 3 in the diagram are correct even if at 45 degrees, just replace their colours with colours of your choice.

http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/metal2/vertical1.jpg

Hope this helps and good luck with your project.

 

[Jericho]

Thanks a bunch, that should make things quite a bit easier I think. It would seem that I asked the right guy

It might be a while before I post the completed fig, I\'ve got some stuff to finish first and this guy will need some base sculpting

 

[Jericho]

Some more good news... the image I was using for the color test had the gap between barrels filled, there is a small but distinct crack on the unaltered fig that should make it even less difficult. Looks like I was overthinking on more than one level

 

[mouse]

er...

Jericho, your mini rocks!

however, 1 qualm. where\'s your light source? if it\'s from the top, right, left or straight on, then your gem seem to be illuminated the wrong way.

maybe i\'m wrong here.

 

[finn17]

You are definitely wrong here...

Mouse, try reading the post instead of just looking at the pictures!!

*BTW Here\'s my Photoshop mockup of the color scheme... edited the hell out of some random guy\'s picture from a Google search (no good Baharroths on CMoN... yet!) *

It helpslol

 

[Kith]

I like Menelker\'s version..

http://www.coolminiornot.com/?id=5780

 

[Lurch]

Quote originally from Jericho

*BTW Here\'s my Photoshop mockup of the color scheme... edited the hell out of some random guy\'s picture from a Google search (no good Baharroths on CMoN... yet!) *

I hate to bring this up as I got absolutely attacked last time I mentioned this, but some of you wanted proof of what could be done in Photoshop.... Here ya go!
:moon: lol

Jericho, is this the original?

 

[finn17]

Well if that\'s not the original, it\'s the original\'s base!

That is certainly a powerful demonstration!

I am happy to admit I was wrong. I would not have believed that someone would spend so much time and effort on a \'mock up\'. Jericho is clearly a very skilled Photoshop Jockey.

I would still maintain that strictly it\'s not a \'silk purse out of a sow\'s ear\' and I would love to see how both images would fare on the CMON voting process. I would have to admit however, that I would certainly give at least a 1 point advantage to Jericho\'s \'mock up\'.

I am also impressed and somewhat concerned, about the apparent ease with which jewels are added and blending simulated.

Lurch, you are right and I was wrong. I am sorry if you considered previous comments as a personal attack however, that was certainly never intended.

 

[dauber22]

Great call, Lurch!

That was my first thought when I say the original question, but I was, uh, too lazy to follow up on it.

 

[Lurch]

A little off topic but...

No problem Finn. In fact, your comments werent that bad. However, some of the PMs I got from some......... others just called me an outright liar.

Photoshop is a powerful tool in the wrong hands. Its amazing what can be done to even regular photos.
Here are a few links you might find intersting on the subject.
Not necessarily mini related, but when you look at them, you can tell that \"mini manipulation\" would be a piece o cake to the right Photoshop person...

• http://www.designedtoat.com/photo.htm
• http://media.gn.apc.org/manip.html
• http://www.photorepair.com/manip.html
• http://www.ktimagead.com/peopleaddremoved.htm
• http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngkids/0104/foolery/quiz1.html
• http://www.snopes.com/photos/photos.asp
• http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/showcase/la-ednote_blurb.blurb

 

[finn17]

Sod the topic!....(sorry Jericho)

Originally posted by Lurch
No problem Finn. In fact, your comments werent that bad. However, some of the PMs I got from some......... others just called me an outright liar.

Thanks Lurch! I am slightly comforted by your re-assurance although I would dearly love to know who PMd you as they must clearly have something to hide?

For those who missed previous debates, I started one here;

http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/viewthread.php?tid=1683

There was a previous discussion where Lurch first voiced his concerns. I can\'t find it and I will leave it to Lurch to remind us of it\'s location.

As it seems to be \'my turn in the barrel\' I would rather get this over and done with and I also think this would be a good place to \'bookmark\' as it were, for when this debate resurfaces as it undoubtedly will.

Sorry to hijack your thread Jericho, but how can you top a response from Arjay?

 

[Lurch]

It matters not who PM\'d me. They know who they were. Those that made my mini ranks drop at that time as well know who you were too. This was the reason I did not voice an opinion on the forum subject covered by your last post.

My thanks to Jericho for giving me a small amount of vindication on the subjectwhich was originally covered under the What do I have to do to get an Eight posting.
Finn, as far as your \"challenge\" is concerned, Do I get any paint pots now? lol lol lol

 

[finn17]

I\'ll see what I can do...

Originally posted by Lurch
Finn, as far as your \"challenge\" is concerned, Do I get any paint pots now? lol lol lol

PM me your address my friend:bouncy:

(Or, just email me at steveapted@aol.com)

 

[Jericho]

Did I mention I did this in just an hour or so? With a mouse? And a 3 year old version of Photoshop?

<edit> It\'s actually 5 years old </edit>

I\'ve been using Photoshop for ages for making desktops, coloring in black and white comics, retouching images (not for posting, of course!) and doing all sorts of things that involve emulation of some textures and whatnot. Recoloring a mini is hardly difficult considering my years of experience with the medium.

Just make a new layer for each color, do the outline rough, touch it up with the eraser, fill in the lines with the base color, set the option to fix transparency (so you can\'t color outside the lines so to speak) and you\'re laughing. And that\'s if you really want to change things... desaturating the model to grayscale and just doing Overlays of a patch of color is even quicker, but it relies very heavily on the painting style of the previous artist and that can make it a bit too obvious in some cases. Best part of keeping all the layers separate is you can just adjust the color balance and junk on the one layer, so if you want to go \"Hrm, I wonder how this would look in green\" or something you can do it immediately with no fuss.

I used the Overlay option for the wings... the rest was new layers and a bit of \"noise\" added so it doesn\'t look like a completely perfect surface and all that. More realistic that way I pretty much had to because the colors used on that base pic were so messed up... half the surface was black and mine was to be a light color scheme.

So yeah I could make Bobby Wong look like a newbie if I were so inclined... but the point of posting on CMoN isn\'t to get a perfect 10, it\'s simply to get people\'s opinions and share mine so hopefully both sides can benefit from sharing techniques and tips and so forth.

And plus... you can\'t win a GD by just printing out images of your \"masterpiece\" lol

 

[mouse]

help...

finn, lurch, dauber and jericho are dancing rings around the scared and confused little mouse tied to a stake.

The shadow of these conspirators from the bonfire danced evily as though alive. They howled at the moon, stomped on the earth and shake their pinkish buttocks at their prey.

\"What is going on here?\" cried the pitiful mouse. ???

 

[Lurch]

I\'ll try to put this a way that poor lil mouse can understand... a nutshell. lol
A while ago, I mentioned that using Photoshop on a photo of a mini could drastically change its appearance and went on to suggest that many of the photos here are mainipulated.
Finn and quite a few others felt I was out of my gourd and that to paint a mini with Photoshop would not/could not be done.
Finn went so far as to issue a challenge to anyone who could prove tha this could be done.
Fast forward to this posting and Jericho\'s photo. He admitted that this photo was manipulated to show his planned colorscheme. ( The blue one if your keeping score) This \"manipulation was good enough to seemingly fool even you to think that it was actually painted that way.

originally posted by mouse
Jericho, your mini rocks!

however, 1 qualm. where\'s your light source? if it\'s from the top, right, left or straight on, then your gem seem to be illuminated the wrong way.

maybe i\'m wrong here.

I then surfed the net and found the original mini. a comparison of the two brought us right back around to the original point.
Are you back with us now?
:]

 

[mouse]

hehehe...

ohh....i see.

actually, i was a believer of postings that could have been manipulated. And it can be so good that it\'s almost impossible to tell the difference (hence, my sincere mistake)...remember once that i posted that as a computer engineer, i knew colleagues who can work miracles with a few photos.

however, i was definitely hoodwinked into believing that Jericho\'s posting was real...good work!

 

[dauber22]

Originally posted by mouse
ohh....i see.

Darn! Does this mean we have to stop shaking our pinkish buttocks at you???lol

 

[Jericho]

That would indeed be a shame :moon: