Spray Undercoat

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Klute

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Im starting to get tired of brushing on my thinned skull white undercoat.
So what do you lot reccomend as a good spray on undercoat,keep in mind I like to keep it thin to retain all the sculpting detail.Im not sure if I trust cans to be thin enough.Is it worth investing in an airbrush??
Thanks in advance.Mark.
 
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Spray primers rock

Seriously, if you go easy with them and spray them in thin layers, they\'ll give you a lovely surface to paint on.
Any matte black or white car primer works well (and is cheaper than GW stuff). Takes seconds to prime a mini too!:)
 
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finn17

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Undercoating...

I really think you can use what you like, as long as it will be compatible with subsequent layers...

However I do not think car primers or general primers are suitable if you are after a really high quality finish.

They are good, but IMO the particle size is too big.

Personally I believe the secret to be minimal undercoating..just the lightest of light layers...Easily achievable with a spray.

I would like to try the azimuthal (sp) technique recommendedby Cyril as I think that looks brilliant..and so easy...
 
Chrispy

Chrispy

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Here\'s some alternative options:

I saw somewhere you can get this item that makes any paint aerosol, it just needs to be put in a jar and attached. That might work for bigger areas.

Another option is what Australian Aborgine\'s use.. mainly, to put pigment in your mouth and spit it consistantly like you\'re whistling hard.. but that may not fly..

I\'ve seen they make cheaper airbrushes that are only single action (push down, get paint) as opposed to double action (push down, get air flow, pul back to control pain amount) however, the compressor is the expensive thing.. I\'ve seen single small compressors about the size of a shoebox, but they don\'t hold much air, so they\'re always on. My dad\'s is for one of those compressed air tools so it\'s heavy duty and only needs to take in air every 30 minutes, depending on the pressure you\'re using...

Hmm... maybe I should update my Airbrushing article.. :p
(BTW, that\'s Zenithal lighting, or light at an apex, or zenith, in the sky..)
 
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Warworks

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I hate to say it

but I just use the black GW primer (apparently I\'m part of some cult...???) with no special technique.

It has finer pigment than many paints, adheres really well, and is a true color (which is useful for my painting style). Of course, it\'s GW, so two cautions for use:

1) Make sure you shake it thoroughly to avoid clumps (good advice for any spray primer), and test it before you do anything imprtant to make sure it\'s mixed well.

2) make sure you give it plenty of time to harden. The can says 20 minutes, but I recommend 12 hours. Too soon, and the primer rubs off more easily.
 
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Calavera

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Oh my.. you did those minis with Skull white.. PAINT ?
Ookay :p
I just use the GW sprays, but anykind of car primer should also do it. And trust\'em.
Spray primers are far superior to paint. And go smoother on In my case. Just do about 2-3 light coats on the mini. Be sure it\'s not too humid or the can isn\'t too cold/hot, and don\'t start the spray burst on the mini but start spraying beside it and move the burst over it lightly.
 
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Nelson

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I\'ve done all of my minis with a thin black wash as an undercoat, and after having tried spray primer, I\'ve realised that it\'s way better. As long as you keep it thin (which is quite easy to control) spray primer owns paint-on. Thinner, tougher, etc. GW should do ya.
 
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U4-Welcome

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I use GW spray primer. Black is more resistant and smoother but has all the standard disadvantages of black (like needing 97 thin coats of color before getting nice, even coverage), white rubs off comparatively easily and is a bit grainy, but is easier to paint on IMO.
 
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Warworks

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On the matter of being smooth

Originally posted by U4-Welcome
I use GW spray primer. Black is more resistant and smoother but has all the standard disadvantages of black (like needing 97 thin coats of color before getting nice, even coverage), white rubs off comparatively easily and is a bit grainy, but is easier to paint on IMO.
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to add to the smooth comment, if you want a smooth undercoast with the black GW spray, place the model with wet primer in front of a desk fan for a couple of hours. It makes the surface so smooth that the model will shine, and is a very useful quality for large surfaces where you want to blend on.
 
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Klute

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Thanks guys.Im still not sure on the car primer,surely the pigment is too thick??I like my undercoat really thin.Sometimes I wonder why I put one on at all.I might try the GW white spray.


Another option is what Australian Aborgine\'s use.. mainly, to put pigment in your mouth and spit it consistantly like you\'re whistling hard.. but that may not fly..
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Im sure I tried this when I drank from my brush jar instead of my coffee cup.:D
 
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WurzagUdUraZahuba

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Originally posted by Spacemunkie
Seriously, if you go easy with them and spray them in thin layers, they\'ll give you a lovely surface to paint on.
Any matte black or white car primer works well (and is cheaper than GW stuff). Takes seconds to prime a mini too!:)
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I once used automotive primer on a few mini\'s and the plastic ones turned out very rippley (if that\'s a word).
 
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MrMorden

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Varnish

After someone on here suggested it, I tried using matte varnish as a basecoat, and I\'m really liking it!

It\'s thinner and smoother than primer, the paint sticks to it well, and I don\'t see chips as much. My procedure as of now is:

Spray with Model Master Matte Varnish
black wash entire mini to bring up detail
paint mini
Spray with Model Master Gloss Varnish
Spray with Model Master Matte Varnish

The only disadvantage of this is that you\'ll need to paint on more thin coats to get full coverage on the basecoats of paint, but this is a very small tradeoff, IMO.
 
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@MrMorden:
Reckon you could get some mad metal effects this way using inks and washes....You tried anything?

Just checked my primer, it\'s Plasti-kote Primer Super. It\'s about a quid cheaper than GW spray and is very good....
 
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MrMorden

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Originally posted by Spacemunkie
@MrMorden:
Reckon you could get some mad metal effects this way using inks and washes....You tried anything?
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I have not, but now that you mention it...

muhahahahah!!! :idea:
 
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