Stalingrad?!
- Thread starter Larre
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Man, essay writing has come a long way since my day. I used to have to have to read books and journals, head into a library and trawl for sources when I studied history. Now you can come online, check Wikipedia, ask around the forum you frequent and you are done. 
I probably just resent the fact that in my day the internet still wasn\'t quite so widespread and information wasn\'t so easy to find online that you could easily copy and paste an essay from it in a matter of minutes!
I probably just resent the fact that in my day the internet still wasn\'t quite so widespread and information wasn\'t so easy to find online that you could easily copy and paste an essay from it in a matter of minutes!
Unfortunately whilst content and structure do still feature quite highly when marking essays. These days they tend to put much more emphasis on references, quotes and evidence. Wikipaedia is certainly not recognised as a reliable source, neither are many internet sites as you can write any old rubbish on them without any basis in fact whatsoever. You\'ll still need to get the meat (or wallpaper paste) of your essay the hard way; through good old fashioned book learnin\'.
I take it you are currently having to write essays, hence the need for references, quotes and evidence being unfortunate! lol
There must be tons of students who use Wikipedia articles for the majority of their work though. I know if I was a marker I\'d stick various sentences from essays into Google to see if I got a match.
At the school I used to go to, Benfield, a select few teachers were asked what they would spend £5000 on in their classrooms.
They were given a list with prices on etc..
Every teachers ticked: smartboard, more computers, video presentation equipment (i.e. huge TV\'s and DVD players) and Internet capabilities. (Anything technological really)
But one teacher Mick Lovell (history teacher) ticked books. 5k of books.
From that day onward my respect for him grew (he was always the teacher I liked the most, right from the first lesson I had with him)
Needless to say I now design books and magazines. Go figure.
They were given a list with prices on etc..
Every teachers ticked: smartboard, more computers, video presentation equipment (i.e. huge TV\'s and DVD players) and Internet capabilities. (Anything technological really)
But one teacher Mick Lovell (history teacher) ticked books. 5k of books.
From that day onward my respect for him grew (he was always the teacher I liked the most, right from the first lesson I had with him)
Needless to say I now design books and magazines. Go figure.
Design! Psh! Books are about words boy, boy, sonny jim, fella me lad. Big long words, words so huge and packed with literate goodness that they confuse the young and the senile.
Design? A mere shiny and throw away wrapper around the words. In my day books were white paper, black letters and a leather cover and manfuactured to be too heavy for women to use. You wouldn\'t have got away with your fancy, metrosexual, arty farty \'design\' efforts then. Oh no!
dude, i have no clue what the replies have been to you; but got get a book and read some websites. The crap is interesting, so just read a book and have fun... military - especially WW2 reports should be the easiest thing ever...
And use phrases like \"I want an A\" as opposed to \"I want to impress\"
And use phrases like \"I want an A\" as opposed to \"I want to impress\"
thanks, this is really helpful! great, I was wondering why they wanted stalingrad exept for the symbolical purpose! very good!
I had actually found the book stalingrad before you told me about it here..
and lono... I acually went to the library and checked old papers from the time, and you can\'t just copy a text, they check it ut, but with the internet, all you have to do is google a sentence in the essay and the page you got it from will come up... also... you must write down your sources.. ie where you got the information, if you don\'t you will be failed!
it really is great to be able to ask here! may be good for others to learn aswell! (YB\'s at least)
anyway... thanks again for the great help guys! now I\'m off to my history class
// Larre
I had actually found the book stalingrad before you told me about it here..
and lono... I acually went to the library and checked old papers from the time, and you can\'t just copy a text, they check it ut, but with the internet, all you have to do is google a sentence in the essay and the page you got it from will come up... also... you must write down your sources.. ie where you got the information, if you don\'t you will be failed!
it really is great to be able to ask here! may be good for others to learn aswell! (YB\'s at least)
anyway... thanks again for the great help guys! now I\'m off to my history class
// Larre
I hate to point out the obvious but why not contact some of our Russian painters for their perspective.
@ lono... Try researching the Hungarian Uprising of 1956 when the internet DIDN\'T exist.
I Had to, took 3 months of serious research though the British Lending Library before I could order the books needed for reference, let alone start the project.
Internet........... you kids are so lucky.
@ lono... Try researching the Hungarian Uprising of 1956 when the internet DIDN\'T exist.
I Had to, took 3 months of serious research though the British Lending Library before I could order the books needed for reference, let alone start the project.
Internet........... you kids are so lucky.
Well I did my last history essays 8 years ago, so it wasn\'t exactly internetless study, but certainly not as easy to get information online. Plenty of library and archive searching for my dissertation on if the photography of the Vietnam war was a true representation of the conflict. Try getting Vietnamese rather than just American sources for that sucker. Bloody nightmare it was.
Farin
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Okay so i was wrong at one point, sorry
@all: impressive how much you all know about it- most people here in germany don´t know so much about it
another tip: try to find newspaper from the date after the day of the capitulation of the german army. i especially recommend pictures of the headlines of the nazi propaganda newspaper \"Völkischer Beobachter\" - it tells you a lot about that insane and inhuman point of view the nazis had about that war
for example they wrote that \" the 8. army of the wehrmacht refused to give up the fight three times\" - in fact the soldiers waited all the time for an order to withdraw and end the fights
@all: impressive how much you all know about it- most people here in germany don´t know so much about it
another tip: try to find newspaper from the date after the day of the capitulation of the german army. i especially recommend pictures of the headlines of the nazi propaganda newspaper \"Völkischer Beobachter\" - it tells you a lot about that insane and inhuman point of view the nazis had about that war
for example they wrote that \" the 8. army of the wehrmacht refused to give up the fight three times\" - in fact the soldiers waited all the time for an order to withdraw and end the fights
thanks! I guess I\'ll google that.. don\'t know how else to find it...
however! it\'s great! I turned up to my history class and had the book \"stalingrad\" of anthony beevor, and he held it up in the air and said that this is how you impress your history teacher! xD
made me feel great!
thanks onece again!
and if Alexi Z or Margo (the only russians on this site that I know of) could lay some other input that is not included it would be great!
// Larre
Godlikebuthumble
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Well, while the Wiki surely is no reliable or \"quotable\" reference, most of the better articles there do feature a neat list of references, which one can use for \"further reading\" and then use as a reference. I know I picked a couple of the books off the references in the Pompeii article there. Mostly works better than typing \"Pompeii\" in a library database and getting 120+ results...
EDIT: and once more, with the feeling of literacy and general sophistication: REFERENCE. Didn\'t notice I used it so often. ???
Mostly works better than typing \"Pompeii\" in a library database and getting 120+ results... EDIT: and once more, with the feeling of literacy and general sophistication: REFERENCE. Didn\'t notice I used it so often. ???
Roger Bunting
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Larre, I think one of Alexi_Z\'s friends, sister123, or something like that is also on cmon.
