Stealing Other people\'s Ideas

[Infidel Castro]

NMM

Sturmhalo says...

\"I first saw NMM (though didn\'t know it as NMM) back in the early 90\'s in White Dwarf. They painted a Blood Angel marine captain using that technique rather than paint him using gold metallics. I doubt GW were the first to use it though.\"

You\'d never guess what...I saw an old friend who said I could browse through his old stuff for free and I actually dug out the very piece of which you talk! Smashing, all I\'ve got to do now is make a go of stripping him of his enamel paint and paint him for my own ends. Interestingly he also gave me two old space marine librarians (remember the one with a scroll in his outstretched, palm-up hand?) and the old inquisitor terminator, Ordo Malleus and that defining terminator captain that Mike McVey painted in his guide years ago...CHUFFING MARVELLOUS!

Otherwise, that is certainly the first miniature-based NMM I remember.

Hey everyone, I travelled in time last night! :wow:

Rev

 

[vincegamer]

Hey Rev,
You sure you want to alter those historical minis?
I\'d like to see pics up for reference sake if not here, maybe there\'s a web site you could put them on?

 

[frenchkid]

I always look for inspiration befor painting a special mini, that means browsing throught CMON and looking at similar models. But usually I can never paint has well has the models that inspire me. I don\'t view this has stealing since my minis are almost never the same anyway. If my mini looks a lot like the mini I was inspired from I\'ll mention is name giving him the credit for the choice of color.

 

[Samurai_Girl]

Almost C.. I see things and try to learn from them \"how did he do that?\". Then I try to use the technique but get my own result. I\'ve learned a lot from looking at the stuff posted here (particularly Chrispy, Big Mean Elf and Sturmhalo)

 

[alexgrunt]

Well, like everyone, C, of course...

barkel said:\"We all live in the same world.
Well, some of my points have already been covered by other people, but I maintain that I thought of them on my own.:innocent:\"
It reaaly exists! It just happened to me 5 min.ago, with this: http://www.coolminiornot.com/?id=23558
I\'ve been working on an organist for weeks, started assembling it and now... What should I do?
Will I do with the A and claim everywhere he stole my idea (I don\'t think he did so)?
I\'ll still do mine! It will be different, people will think I copied it but...

 

[mouse]

hmmm....

Mostly, it\'s B. Never A.

However, I don\'t believe in C.

Somewhat agreeing with Chrispy, art can inspire (that\'s why it is so much linked to the human soul) and influence a person way of doing things.

Take an instance, NMM can be perfected by Bobby Wong, Arjay or Honda. But that doesn\'t mean that anyone else is copying from them and hence attribute their later NMM works to them. Maybe there is someone else in the world who had done that. Maybe not as well as the artists mentioned, but it\'s been done.

What I believe is this:

Art is a form of human spirit. An expression of our inner self. Someone will find NMM beautiful, others loathe it. That doesn\'t mean that NMM is better and hence THE others are inferior.

Hence, if someone selfishly insist that credit be given to him for something, when others emulate his work, then I believe that that someone has flout the \"rules\" of what is truly the nobility of art.

Besides, we also shamelessly copy from our world...if one is to believe that it is the creation of God (I for one).

 

[Shroud]

Darkblade, thanks for the credit even though it wasn\'t necessary In fact, yours is the second figure I have seen that emulated that particular idea/conversion - must have done something right I guess

To answer the original question:

- I pretty much never completely copy an idea in terms of converting, but I will sometimes borrow elements (For example, I have a GD entry in the works which uses sculpted flames similar to what Matt Verzanni and Victoria Lamb have used).

- Sometimes I do a figure/conversion and think it\'s a brand new idea, only to discover someone else already did it or something similar to it. I hate that lol But it\'s almost inevitable with GW conversions that someone else will have a similar idea to what you thought of.

- If people borrow ideas from me (bases, conversions - whatever) it doesn\'t bother me much at all.

- I once got accused by a famous painter of copying a figure\'s color scheme, although in actuality my model was based on the box art (it was a Chianmail figure) and in my opinion didn\'t much look like his miniature. That was a bit befuddling.

 

[Norseone]

Mainly b because on c I never do the same thing I may get inspired by something I have seen but never do something the same as something I have seen done.

Personally,I look at people trying to duplicate things I\'ve done as the highest form of flatery and will just have a good chuckle about it.

 

[Samurai_Girl]

Hehe the harder I try to copy something, the farther away I get