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Danny Boyle\'s new film...
An awesome audio-visual experience.
Go and see it!
An awesome audio-visual experience.
Go and see it!
Sunshine
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OK, so my cousin was going to take me to see 300 last weekend, then he got ill. We are now going this weekend.
I\'ve still not seen 300, I\'m still not really ultra-excited at the prospect of seeing it either, but it did seem to be a cinema film.
I was wondering if Sunshine was more of a downloader than a cinema worthy film, but your comments have thrown me Mr Munkie.
He has given me the choice of that instead of 300, so which should I let him pay for me to see?
I\'ve still not seen 300, I\'m still not really ultra-excited at the prospect of seeing it either, but it did seem to be a cinema film.
I was wondering if Sunshine was more of a downloader than a cinema worthy film, but your comments have thrown me Mr Munkie.
He has given me the choice of that instead of 300, so which should I let him pay for me to see?
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havent seen sunshine but 300 is uber cool. every man should see it.
thanks scott - will have a look at it
thanks scott - will have a look at it
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Unless you have a house sized screen and a several k THX soundsystem, then I\'d recommend Sunshine as a cinema experience.
The sound and visuals are truly stunning. There\'s one scene which I reckon is the most intense experience I\'ve ever had whilst watching a film.
It\'s up there with Alien and 2001 as a sci-fi classic for me. The sort of sci-fi Clarke or Asimov might have created.
If I had to choose between this and 300, there\'s no competition for me. 300 is (mildly entertaining) throwaway fluff.
The sound and visuals are truly stunning. There\'s one scene which I reckon is the most intense experience I\'ve ever had whilst watching a film.
It\'s up there with Alien and 2001 as a sci-fi classic for me. The sort of sci-fi Clarke or Asimov might have created.
If I had to choose between this and 300, there\'s no competition for me. 300 is (mildly entertaining) throwaway fluff.
I saw the trailer to Sunshine when I went to see 300.
I wasn\'t that impressed as it reminded me of a very poorly made movie in the late 80\'s early 90\'s with Tim Matheson & Charleton Heston called \"Solar Crisis\".
Also the the trailer seemed to be indicating yet another Psycho in Space, which I\'m afraid doesn\'t really gel with me.
Plus there were so many \"The Cold Equations\" giveaway\'s in the trailer.
Sorry but it\'s on my \"perhaps\" list
I wasn\'t that impressed as it reminded me of a very poorly made movie in the late 80\'s early 90\'s with Tim Matheson & Charleton Heston called \"Solar Crisis\".
Also the the trailer seemed to be indicating yet another Psycho in Space, which I\'m afraid doesn\'t really gel with me.
Plus there were so many \"The Cold Equations\" giveaway\'s in the trailer.
Sorry but it\'s on my \"perhaps\" list
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Oops, I\'ve got a stiffie! That\'s some praise there my man! It\'ll be put on the list of things to watch.
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It\'s a million miles away from Solar Crisis and it\'s anything but poorly made. Danny Boyle seemed to have a task on his hands with 20th Century Fox who apparently were pushing for a title similar to \'Solar Crisis\'. Not seen the trailer, but I can imagine what parts of the film it uses...
The visual effects are superbly done (and not overused), but the film makes more of stunning sound production and cinematography. The sets are convincing as well. He seems to have taken a leaf out of Ridley Scott\'s book.
The visual effects are superbly done (and not overused), but the film makes more of stunning sound production and cinematography. The sets are convincing as well. He seems to have taken a leaf out of Ridley Scott\'s book.
That puts a Spaniard in the works then! Was all set for 300 but after...
\"It\'s up there with Alien and 2001 as a sci-fi classic for me. The sort of sci-fi Clarke or Asimov might have created.
If I had to choose between this and 300, there\'s no competition for me. 300 is (mildly entertaining) throwaway fluff.\"
...how can I pass on Sunshine?
And I can blame you if it\'s disapointing too. I can\'t loose!
\"It\'s up there with Alien and 2001 as a sci-fi classic for me. The sort of sci-fi Clarke or Asimov might have created.
If I had to choose between this and 300, there\'s no competition for me. 300 is (mildly entertaining) throwaway fluff.\"
...how can I pass on Sunshine?
And I can blame you if it\'s disapointing too. I can\'t loose!
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Cheer up chap, t\'was merely a heads up
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After 2001 and Alien, there\'s a pretty big drop-off though!
Seriously, I suggest necking a bunch of space-cakes before you go
Seriously, I suggest necking a bunch of space-cakes before you go
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Originally posted by Spacemunkie
After 2001 and Alien, there\'s a pretty big drop-off though!
Seriously, I suggest necking a bunch of space-cakes before you go
Now you can\'t be suggesting drugs can you? Shocking lol
Speaking of the man Boyle, I just finished watching 28 Days later again just now. What a bloody good film. If that\'s a starting point for Sunshine then I\'m in.
You weren\'t wrong about it looking and sounding fantastic. The sets are spectacular, special effects very good without trying to be flashy for the sake of it, the sonics used to great effect. Some of the cinematography is also lovely and fresh for a sci-fi effort.
The performances are decent enough too, although a wee bit more characterisation wouldn\'t have gone amiss - they all pretty much fitted a specific kind of archetype. Some of the messages I suspect Boyle and Garland were putting into it are interesting too.
BUT!
SPOILERS ABOUND
Acts one and two were great, then crazy sun-baked man came into the fray and things went a bit tits up. He took it from being an intelligent, realistic (well probably unrealistic in terms of the actual science, but with the illusion of realism), interesting look at the human psyche and it became an odd space-slasher film.
Perhaps there is strong reasoning and justification for putting skin cancer man in, but I couldn\'t work out why. It was like two thirds of one sort of movie, a third of another. Really hurt the film for myself and my cousin.
There were still things to enjoy, but the addition of him made the film much less powerful to me in all than it could have been if handled differently. If Searle had been used in the way the crazy Captain was for example it would have made more sense, and taken away the over the top fantasy element the sunburnt Captain brought. I think that we were supposed to see that Searle was on the way to getting to that state anyhow.
Perhaps 300 is the better film (having not seen it I am theorising here though) simply because it looks to do exactly what it sets out to, whereas I felt Sunshine just couldn\'t quite decide what it wanted to be.
Oh, and no space cakes were eaten before the visit. In fact no space cakes ever again for me. Any food substance filled with a drug that causes the munchies to kick in is a vicious cycle waiting to happen!
The performances are decent enough too, although a wee bit more characterisation wouldn\'t have gone amiss - they all pretty much fitted a specific kind of archetype. Some of the messages I suspect Boyle and Garland were putting into it are interesting too.
BUT!
SPOILERS ABOUND
Acts one and two were great, then crazy sun-baked man came into the fray and things went a bit tits up. He took it from being an intelligent, realistic (well probably unrealistic in terms of the actual science, but with the illusion of realism), interesting look at the human psyche and it became an odd space-slasher film.
Perhaps there is strong reasoning and justification for putting skin cancer man in, but I couldn\'t work out why. It was like two thirds of one sort of movie, a third of another. Really hurt the film for myself and my cousin.
There were still things to enjoy, but the addition of him made the film much less powerful to me in all than it could have been if handled differently. If Searle had been used in the way the crazy Captain was for example it would have made more sense, and taken away the over the top fantasy element the sunburnt Captain brought. I think that we were supposed to see that Searle was on the way to getting to that state anyhow.
Perhaps 300 is the better film (having not seen it I am theorising here though) simply because it looks to do exactly what it sets out to, whereas I felt Sunshine just couldn\'t quite decide what it wanted to be.
Oh, and no space cakes were eaten before the visit. In fact no space cakes ever again for me. Any food substance filled with a drug that causes the munchies to kick in is a vicious cycle waiting to happen!
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I think the \'space slasher\' thing is missing the point a wee bit. I liked the way the film basically just deconstructed itself into what almost became a surreal halucinatory experience at the end.
There was a lot of religious subtext in there - the sun as creator of the universe and giver of life, the spirit ascending to heaven or descending to hell. What happens when you meet your maker, that sort of thing.
Personally I thought the \'slasher\' character was there purely to represent the physical universe and the darker side of the human psyche - basically everything that they were trying to transcend at the end.
Still, it\'s a class bit of sci-fi however you look at it - definitely better than most things the last 30 years have regurgitated.
There was a lot of religious subtext in there - the sun as creator of the universe and giver of life, the spirit ascending to heaven or descending to hell. What happens when you meet your maker, that sort of thing.
Personally I thought the \'slasher\' character was there purely to represent the physical universe and the darker side of the human psyche - basically everything that they were trying to transcend at the end.
Still, it\'s a class bit of sci-fi however you look at it - definitely better than most things the last 30 years have regurgitated.
Aye your right, it did read like I was being a miserable old Git.Originally posted by reverend
Cheer up chap, t\'was merely a heads up
I did spot the subtext thrown in along with the \'space slasher\' thing. The way I described him does perhaps indicate I missed the point, but I actually liked a lot of the less obvious messages and subtext thrown in. The religious and creationist issues, playing God, the right or wrong of the crew\'s proposed actions as regards the survival of humanity and if it is justified in the bigger picture of the universe - all interesting stuff.
I just thought the marooned-for-years Captain was an inelegant way of enforcing some of them. For me his character was extreme science-fantasy, rather than science-fiction, which ended up obscuring the more subtle motivations of the film. The powerful, extreme and surreal experience portrayed at the end, and the layers of subtext in the film, could have still been delivered without him I think, utilising members of the existing crew to more effect instead.
I\'m a big Lynch fan, so I\'m no stranger to subtext and layers in films, particularly when they aren\'t overstated or delivered in any sort of obvious way. In his stuff they always feel right and fit the overall feel of the film for me, no matter how bizarre they may actually be, yet the lost Captain didn\'t sit right with me in Sunshine, hence my slight issue.
But the fact the film has given me cause to enter any sort of discussion beyond \"how many killings?\" shows it isn\'t bad, and there was a lot to like about it. I\'ll certainly give it another go on DVD.
I just thought the marooned-for-years Captain was an inelegant way of enforcing some of them. For me his character was extreme science-fantasy, rather than science-fiction, which ended up obscuring the more subtle motivations of the film. The powerful, extreme and surreal experience portrayed at the end, and the layers of subtext in the film, could have still been delivered without him I think, utilising members of the existing crew to more effect instead.
I\'m a big Lynch fan, so I\'m no stranger to subtext and layers in films, particularly when they aren\'t overstated or delivered in any sort of obvious way. In his stuff they always feel right and fit the overall feel of the film for me, no matter how bizarre they may actually be, yet the lost Captain didn\'t sit right with me in Sunshine, hence my slight issue.
But the fact the film has given me cause to enter any sort of discussion beyond \"how many killings?\" shows it isn\'t bad, and there was a lot to like about it. I\'ll certainly give it another go on DVD.
hmmm
I really want to see this film, but apparently, due to negative screenings in north america, the film is heading for reshoots, and the north american date which would have been this past friday, is now december 2007.
The slasher part..hmm..hopefully that gets changed
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I really want to see this film, but apparently, due to negative screenings in north america, the film is heading for reshoots, and the north american date which would have been this past friday, is now december 2007.
The slasher part..hmm..hopefully that gets changed
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Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Aye your right, it did read like I was being a miserable old Git.Originally posted by reverend
Cheer up chap, t\'was merely a heads up
Now I never suggested that! lol
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Oh dear. I suspect that will be bad. Very bad.
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Originally posted by Dragonsreach
...being a miserable old Git.
My favourite pastime!
