Switching BACK to GW paints...

[misterjustin]

BAH! BAH, I say, BAH!

Ral Partha paints are the ONLY way to go.

Oh, sure, they\'re not on the market any more... but the pots I\'ve had for, oh, 20 years are still very usable. Sure I\'ve had to add some water to them over the years. And it\'s true that some are probably only 10 years old. But easily 1/2 of my paint selection is still Ral Partha.

Every time I use the last of a colour I cry a little bit inside.

 

[Tahn]

I have just received my first 4 Vallejo Model Colours in the post. I am very pleased with them! Not only are they 50p cheaper than GW (makes a big difference if you buy alot of paints), but they also have more paint in the pot! Cha!

The little squeezy lids are just as nifty as I have heard them to be. And They will fill a perfect purpose of creating Blood Splatters as that great article has said. A guy could get used to this. And will do unless GW don\'t start knocking the prices down!

 

[SebastianRushworth]

Some good points Supervike, though I don\'t find any of those things to be a very big problem. I prefer Vallejo Model Color because it has better coverage and a more matte finish, and because it\'s 50% cheaper than GW paint (at least here in Sweden, if you count both the price difference and the difference in amount of paint per bottle) and since I paint with a palette, the dropper bottles are much easier to apply paint with than GW pots.

 

[generulpoleaxe]

i first changed to vallejo whilst i was gw staff.

it worked out cheaper to use vallejo than gw paints (even with staff discount)

i love them, much better in my opinion.

i still use the gw inks tho, i maybe going back to coat d\' arms for the inks and possibly the metallics.

at the end of the day it\'s down to personal preferance.

 

[Dragonsreach]

Originally posted by vincenti
As an Enamels man I have been using G.W. paint for only about 4 years now & I find them awesome. Having spent donkeys years doing drab & somber military minis I find the vibrancy of the colours they produce very refreshing ( No I dont drink them as well!).
I wish they would put the colour on the top of the pot though ,I keep mine in a buiscuit tin & it can take ages to find the right colour ! GOD bless ...... VINCENTI lol

VINCENTI, Put a spot of the colour on the top. Halves the search time.

I\'m sticking to Vallejo as just as others have commented I find that their paints are more flexible. However I have encountered the problems you are mentioning Vikey, the main colours that tend to clog up on me are the pigment rich Ochres.
But a while a go I read on one of our threads, the trick was to stand the bottle back vertical , with a little emphasis, before you put the top back on.

 

[skarekrow]

Originally posted by Avelorn
I must say I have had no luck what so ever with Rackham paint. Grainy finish, sucky coverage etc. Hard to blend well with. They have a nice matt finish though. Could you recommend any specific colour that I could try?

this might be a water thing, i use ordinary swedish tapwater to thin the R paints, i havent had any problems with grainy end results at all, ive experienced less grain than GW though. i got their yellow to cover over black in two thinned layers.

the blending thing is a bit different though, i dont blend anymore, atleast not on a pallette. i use the technique that ericJ described in an article on another forum where you just work woth really thin paints and adding/subtracting to tint the underlying colour in wichever direction you want, and for that the R pots kick both vallejo and GWs behinds.

im totally in love with their starter set

 

[Legacy Account]

Originally posted by james sequeira
isnt PP producing a band new line under the management of Mike McVey

Mike McVey has helped Coaties develop the P3 paints (so it seems, still waiting for a response to that question...), just like he helped them develop their original Citadel line. So from what I can gather, the Privateer paints will basically be souped up Coat D\'Arms.

At nearly £2 a pot. Bloody expensive compared to Coaties - they\'d better be superior.

Edit: HMG Ltd produce the paint, so it\'ll be them.

 

[Legacy Account]

Here you go Vikey:

67 pots of paint for £80:

http://www.coatdarms.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=426

£16 postage to the US of A, so £96 in total. Still a bloomin\' bargain at less than £1.45 a pot.:flip:

Bloody hell. Almost forgot Derivan Minis:

http://www.matisse.com.au/pages/minis.htm
HER-UUUUUUGE pots! Supposed to be ok too according to those that use them.
THESE GUYS do free shipping worldwide on orders over £16.50!

Cracking lids on those too. You turn the screw top, and it turns into a dropper. When you twist it back to close it, the screw top squishes all the excess paint out, so they never block. I\'ve got some big Rowney ones and they are the best paint closures I\'ve used by far.

 

[Ogrebane]

Ive only reallu used GW paints. Ive tried a few vallejo but am still not convinced. About the price thing I am still using my original mithril which I bought 8 years ago so value wise Im happy with it. i am currently using my 127th or so white (Wish they came in a 1 ltr bucket) but I dont really care about the price so much. I buy about $100 of paint a year (in Oz dollars) So its the cheaper part of the hobby. Brushes and minis are the biggest cost for me.

 

[Legacy Account]

Right, a definitive answer from Master McVey himself:

The new P3 paints have been developed by the company that produces the old Citadel stuff for Coat D\'Arms, but they are basically a new formulation developed in conjunction with the brush-meister himself. Considering that Coaties still stand the test of time, I\'m hoping these\'ll be the shiznitt. To coin a phrase as it were...

 

[EricJ]

well, I seem to do my paints differently than pretty much everyone else. I like GW paints far better the Vallejo, and I can\'t stand dropper bottles, and I paint out of paint bottle caps. Of course I can\'t stand GW bottles either.

I started painting using ral partha paints, and I LOVED their bottles, and I found that Iron Wind Metals sells those paint bottles:

Paint Bottle MT\'s

So I just transfer all my paints into these. They are softer plastic which makes for a tigher seal I\'ve found. I had colors sit for 2+ years and be fine. They have a nice cap to paint out of also

Sure the paint dries some since the bottles sit open while I paint, however a couple drops of pure water (nothing straight from the tap) and a quick shake when I\'m done fixes that. Also a little trick is to blow into the bottle right before closing them, The paint will dry less with the moist CO2 rich air you\'re exhaling, than the O rich drier air in the room.

Anyway, this works for me, and I love it. I find I waste FAR less paint the with droppers, because when I paint, I almost NEVER will use a full drop of paint, or even close, so all that excess is just wasted every time.

 

[Bastetcat]

Originally posted by EricJ
....I find I waste FAR less paint the with droppers, because when I paint, I almost NEVER will use a full drop of paint, or even close, so all that excess is just wasted every time.

I often use less than a drop. It\'s not that hard to squeeze out a smaller amount if you use less.
Not that I\'m trying to convert you, or anything!

 

[SebastianRushworth]

While we\'re on the subject of the annoying properties of Vallejo paints, does anyone have any good suggestions for agitators to put in the bottles?

 

[Commissar Elvis]

I use bits of pewter flash, if they\'re big enough. You can look in your local hardware store, too, and buy some small nuts to use as well.

I\'ve never been consistent across my paints with agitators because some have flash, some have nuts, some have BBs, and some don\'t have anything.

 

[vincegamer]

I used glass beads from the fabric shop.

 

[Herb the bitter]

I use 6mm glass beads from here:

https://www1.fishersci.com/Coupon?cid=1341&gid=2378845

Usually put 3 or 4 in a bottle. Don\'t know how much shipping would be though.

 

[supervike]

Hiya Herb! Long time no see.

I have to say, the glass beads do work well for the Vallejo bottles...Herb was kind enough to give me a bottle of them, and they are great.

Does anyone know why, as in my initial post, my white paint now has blue in it? It seems to me that white paint in the \'artist\' world does have blue in it...but I can\'t recall.

 

[Ritual]

Most likely you\'ve got some dirt into your paint pot that is giving off blue colour.

 

[vincenti]

Thankyou G.S & D.R , for the tips:idea:.Simple & obvious to the point of embarasment:redface:.... GOD bless ......... VINCENTI

 

[Dragonsreach]

Adie :
You\'re welcome.