Talent
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Brokenblade
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Yeah it can. 
CaptNarcissisto
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Everything else being equal some people are just more talented at certain things than others, therefore can possibly outshine the less talented (whether it be art, athletics, or intelligence). Hard work and discipline make a big difference too though. A hard working individual could surpass a more talented one who is lazy. On the other hand if two people both work just as hard, and one is more talented, the more talented one should outshie the less talented most of the time.
No Such Agency
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Excellent point. The fact is, not to toot my own horn too much, I could probably learn to paint as well as Cyril/Eric/Margo/Victoria/whoever if I really applied myself, and painted a lot more miniatures. But I am lazy, and not easily inspired to sit and paint. Does this mean they are \"more talented\" than me? Who knows, but the end result is that at the end of the day they can paint circles around me.
Talent: n.
A marked innate ability, as for artistic accomplishment. See Synonyms at ability.
1: Natural endowment or ability of a superior quality.
2: A person or group of people having such ability: The company makes good use of its talent.
3: A variable unit of weight and money used in ancient Greece, Rome, and the Middle East.
By definition, \'talent\' can not be taught, as it is an innate thing. You have it or you do not.
However... a skill can be learned, and a skill can, as stated above, outshine a talent with hard work and dedication.
I have talent when it comes to music.
My painting is not something I am talented at. It is something I am working to be skilled at.
NSA has talent for painting. He, by his own words, is lazy.
Skill added to talent and you can be truly great.
A marked innate ability, as for artistic accomplishment. See Synonyms at ability.
1: Natural endowment or ability of a superior quality.
2: A person or group of people having such ability: The company makes good use of its talent.
3: A variable unit of weight and money used in ancient Greece, Rome, and the Middle East.
By definition, \'talent\' can not be taught, as it is an innate thing. You have it or you do not.
However... a skill can be learned, and a skill can, as stated above, outshine a talent with hard work and dedication.
I have talent when it comes to music.
My painting is not something I am talented at. It is something I am working to be skilled at.
NSA has talent for painting. He, by his own words, is lazy.
Skill added to talent and you can be truly great.
tidoco2222
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I think that if you have a talent for something then you will find it easier to pick up and progress than say someone who is less talented. But I do think it can be taught and learnt I spend alot of my time teaching lower graded staff in my job some are naturaly talented and pick things up quickly others take a little longer but they all learn in the end.
Duende
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More definitions..
Innate- 1. existing naturally rather than acquired [innate talent] 2. existing as an inherent attribute [the innate humor of a situation]
Hmm, by this defination of innate (using it to describe \"talent\"), it implies that a talent can also NOT be innate, but learned. Because if a talent is by defination \"innate\", using \"innate\" to describe it is redundant.
BUT, also to refute myself, here\'s some more definitions:
Skill - 1. great ability or proficiency; expertness 2. an art, craft, or science, esp. one involving the use of the hands or body 3. ability in such an art, craft, or science
Skilled - 1. having skill; skillful 2. having or requiring an ability gained by special experience or training
Talent - 1. any natural ability or power 2. a special, superior ability in an art, science, craft, etc. 3. people who have talent
So according to this, a talent is natural, a skill is learned, but unless you know a person\'s background, how can you tell the difference between a talented person and a skilled one?
.....This stuff gives me a headache
So if you\'re talented at something, great! but if not, you can learn to become skilled at it. But learning is also an ability... are you a good learner or not??
*BANG!* (head just exploded)
Innate- 1. existing naturally rather than acquired [innate talent] 2. existing as an inherent attribute [the innate humor of a situation]
Hmm, by this defination of innate (using it to describe \"talent\"), it implies that a talent can also NOT be innate, but learned. Because if a talent is by defination \"innate\", using \"innate\" to describe it is redundant.
BUT, also to refute myself, here\'s some more definitions:
Skill - 1. great ability or proficiency; expertness 2. an art, craft, or science, esp. one involving the use of the hands or body 3. ability in such an art, craft, or science
Skilled - 1. having skill; skillful 2. having or requiring an ability gained by special experience or training
Talent - 1. any natural ability or power 2. a special, superior ability in an art, science, craft, etc. 3. people who have talent
So according to this, a talent is natural, a skill is learned, but unless you know a person\'s background, how can you tell the difference between a talented person and a skilled one?
.....This stuff gives me a headache
So if you\'re talented at something, great! but if not, you can learn to become skilled at it. But learning is also an ability... are you a good learner or not??
*BANG!* (head just exploded)
In theory no, in practice yes. This is because in theory we can deal with talent and skill as seperate things. In practice, talent must sometimes be discovered and this discovery can come about as a result of teaching. In addition talent gives synergy to skills and skills to talent, so that the learning of some techniques can help other techniques naturally known.
Infidel Castro
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You know Isaac Newton? he wasn\'t the brightest spark in the class when he was younger, but he soon got into his stride as he got older. maybe he had a mad pubescent period and became ultra-talented?
Don\'t know, but for every talented person there\'s a dick-fingered person to balance things out, and billions of average folk
Don\'t know, but for every talented person there\'s a dick-fingered person to balance things out, and billions of average folk
Infidel Castro
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That\'s the spirit
No Such Agency
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Newton loathed sex and feared women. He even supposedly died a virgin. I think this gave him a lot of time to hone his other trains of thought (in addition to just being very bright)...
\"Sadly\" most of us do not have this \"gift\" lol
Ebonbuddha
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Thats it in a nutshell.
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G-nome
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Second go at this. Damn I hate losing my posts into the dark abyss of ...erffect whm where ever... started well but ran out of steam.
Ok Talent. As a person goes through life they pick up thought patterns and ways of thinking that affect their actions. These can be found to be highly useful and beneficial to a particular practice be it sewing modeling painting or languages. This person could be called talented.
Another person could potentially learn the thinking patterns of a a talented person and become talented.
Is talent defined by the process ie: how the talent or skill was aquired, or the end result ie: how talented or skilled the person is now. Going by the dictionary definition above it could be argued that the natural aquisition of skills and thought processes is not inate as it is aquired. So in one respect there is no such thing as the dictionary defin ition of talent as it is all learned.
And essetially what you naturally learn is up to chance and is pretty random. Unless you are genetically predisposed..... damn thats my argument out the window.
Talent
Found down the pub at increasing amounts in direct corellation to the amount of alchohol consumed.
Ok Talent. As a person goes through life they pick up thought patterns and ways of thinking that affect their actions. These can be found to be highly useful and beneficial to a particular practice be it sewing modeling painting or languages. This person could be called talented.
Another person could potentially learn the thinking patterns of a a talented person and become talented.
Is talent defined by the process ie: how the talent or skill was aquired, or the end result ie: how talented or skilled the person is now. Going by the dictionary definition above it could be argued that the natural aquisition of skills and thought processes is not inate as it is aquired. So in one respect there is no such thing as the dictionary defin ition of talent as it is all learned.
And essetially what you naturally learn is up to chance and is pretty random. Unless you are genetically predisposed..... damn thats my argument out the window.
Talent
Found down the pub at increasing amounts in direct corellation to the amount of alchohol consumed.
vincegamer
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And, as we all know and are no doubt aware, the English language is never redundant, that\'s for sure.
