Tamiya \'flat base\' X21?

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Davyboy74

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Have any of you good people any experience with this product?

The reason i ask is that i have a few tubes of vallejo \'matt\' acrlyics that are not matt at all! They all dry semi-gloss, no matter how much i shake/stir them.

A friend of mine (an \'ol treadhead... 1/72 tanks & stuff) suggested X21 to flatten these troublesome colours, and having used it on a few test bits i must say it does exactly what it says on the tin! lol
However, i am slightly concerned that it may be lightening the paints im adding it to. I added some 50/50 to Vallejo black & it dried VERY matt, but it looked more like a charcoal black to me, slightly grey :(

Do any of you guys/gals have experience with this product?
 
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KatieG

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Usually matting agent doesn\'t need to be used so strongly. What you should do is add it in smaller amounts first and add as little as you can to kill the shine. Then it doesn\'t dilute out the color and you don\'t risk it frosting due to too much matting agent.

I actually use the Reaper Master Series Anti-shine additive, which is some strong stuff. A drop of it in about 5-6 drops of paint kills the shine.
 
Einion

Einion

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Originally posted by Davyboy74
The reason i ask is that i have a few tubes of vallejo \'matt\' acrlyics that are not matt at all! They all dry semi-gloss, no matter how much i shake/stir them.
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Well that is definitely what Flat Base would be good for.

Originally posted by Davyboy74
However, i am slightly concerned that it may be lightening the paints im adding it to. I added some 50/50 to Vallejo black & it dried VERY matt, but it looked more like a charcoal black to me, slightly grey :(
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This is an effect of being matt - if you scuffed a glossy black car\'s paintwork it would look charcoal grey when you were done. Shoot it with a couple of fresh coats of gloss and it would look black again.

Glossy = deep.
Matt = lighter and greyer.

You notice the effect might more on dark-valued colours.

Einion
 
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