Teaching painting

Cerridwyn1st

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I\'ve been trying to get a painting workshop started at my local gaming hang-out. Yesterday, two youngsters came in at noon (it normally starts at 3pm) and painted until about 6:30, with a few breaks in between.

They had seen me taking pictures of another guy\'s minis the week before, and wanted to try painting.

They started with bare minis, right out of the packs. They cleaned their minis, washed them, painted on primer (I gave them some Vallejo brush on primer) and got started with the clothes and armor of their figs.

One kid was showing real promise. He was teasing his friend for painting the face on his mini light brown. I took the mini and showed them how a few strokes of flesh tone (not quite drybrushing, but close) then a few more lighter highlights, and you\'ve got a face.

Anyway, I took green and showed them how to mix the highlight by adding yellow and the shadow by adding dark blue. Kenneth (Mr. Talent) took to that like a duck to water. His friend (Tyler) didn\'t do too badly, either.

Kenneth had done railroad modling with his grandfather, so he had some experience with painting model trains. But fantasy figures are quite different. There is a lot of detail on those. He also likes to draw, mostly comics, and had some understanding of highlights and shadows from that.

I just got this huge tacklebox on wheels, so I had most of my supplies with me. I gave the kids free range with the lot, so they were using a wet pallet, vallejo paints, files, lights, magnifiers, paint extender, you name it, right from the get-go. Didn\'t let them touch my Windsor Newton 7s, though. I\'m generous, but not crazy. :) I had them use the extender instead of my usual Magic Wash, because it is something they could buy right off the shelf, while MW is something you have to make up yourself.

Both young men were happy with the figures they were working on, and eager to come back the next week and finish up.

It\'s amazing how well they did, starting right out with good equipment and a little instruction. I can\'t wait until they are done. I want to take pix and have the kids post them on CMON.

Now I feel guilty - I\'m going to have to go back to teaching my son how to paint.

If this keeps going, we will have a nice painting group.
 

No Such Agency

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Wow! I don\'t think I\'d have the patience to do that. Nice of you to use your supplies too. Just think, these are two kids who won\'t have to go through the whole \"Why doesn\'t my drybrushing looks as nice as the highlights on McVey\'s miniatures?\" phase. That phase sucked.
 

Ebonbuddha

Active member
Dude, it\'s awesome what you are doing. Not only are you teaching the hobby to the \'New Blood\', thus giving it a longer life. But you are possibly keeping them from getting into a lot of trouble.
I use to do something similar to this when I lived in the US. I never taught painting, but I use to let the kids use my stuff to game. Whether they wanted to try a new army, or add to their own. At that point I had Space Wolves, Saim Hann, Tzeentch,and some Space Orcs. I also had three Mordheim Wardbands (Sisters of Sigmar, Witch Hunters, and Orcs). They would come in on a saturday and try something new,or add to their army. They usually stayed until 7:30 or 8:00 pm.
Here is a funny story. One of the kids got hints on how to play IG from another of our store\'s veterans and beat my friend\'s Iyanden Craft World Eldar. Imagine the look on the face of the 33 years old who got obliterated by the 14 year old newbie. The 33 year old didn\'t say anything to anyone. He just packed up his stuff and left. He didn\'t come back to the store for three weeks. lol lol lol

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Originally posted by Cerridwyn1st
I\'ve been trying to get a painting workshop started at my local gaming hang-out. Yesterday, two youngsters came in at noon (it normally starts at 3pm) and painted until about 6:30, with a few breaks in between.

They had seen me taking pictures of another guy\'s minis the week before, and wanted to try painting.

They started with bare minis, right out of the packs. They cleaned their minis, washed them, painted on primer (I gave them some Vallejo brush on primer) and got started with the clothes and armor of their figs.

One kid was showing real promise. He was teasing his friend for painting the face on his mini light brown. I took the mini and showed them how a few strokes of flesh tone (not quite drybrushing, but close) then a few more lighter highlights, and you\'ve got a face.

Anyway, I took green and showed them how to mix the highlight by adding yellow and the shadow by adding dark blue. Kenneth (Mr. Talent) took to that like a duck to water. His friend (Tyler) didn\'t do too badly, either.

Kenneth had done railroad modling with his grandfather, so he had some experience with painting model trains. But fantasy figures are quite different. There is a lot of detail on those. He also likes to draw, mostly comics, and had some understanding of highlights and shadows from that.

I just got this huge tacklebox on wheels, so I had most of my supplies with me. I gave the kids free range with the lot, so they were using a wet pallet, vallejo paints, files, lights, magnifiers, paint extender, you name it, right from the get-go. Didn\'t let them touch my Windsor Newton 7s, though. I\'m generous, but not crazy. :) I had them use the extender instead of my usual Magic Wash, because it is something they could buy right off the shelf, while MW is something you have to make up yourself.

Both young men were happy with the figures they were working on, and eager to come back the next week and finish up.

It\'s amazing how well they did, starting right out with good equipment and a little instruction. I can\'t wait until they are done. I want to take pix and have the kids post them on CMON.

Now I feel guilty - I\'m going to have to go back to teaching my son how to paint.

If this keeps going, we will have a nice painting group.
 
you commented that they did a good job and that you felt bad about it. Well when you figure they had a teacher who knew what they were doing showing them what to do as opposed to how alot of us started, i.e/ trial and error.
 

Cerridwyn1st

New member
More teaching

Originally posted by beowulfthehunter
you commented that they did a good job and that you felt bad about it. Well when you figure they had a teacher who knew what they were doing showing them what to do as opposed to how alot of us started, i.e/ trial and error.

No, I felt bad because I started teaching my son how to paint, and I haven\'t worked with him for a while. There I was teaching strangers how to paint.

I didn\'t feel bad teaching the other kids. It was great. But now I\'m hot to get back to teaching my own son how to paint, and having one more person to hang out and paint with.

Yeah, trial and error sucks as a learning method. Where I\'ve improved the fastest is when I\'ve had a chance to \"hang\" with other painters and learn a few things.

The kids are great. They have a lot of raw talent. Just need a chance to practice and learn, that\'s all.
 

eparchos

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I\'ve been doing some workshops down at my local store for a few months now and I have one guy who\'s a regular. I run them from noon to 6 p.m. with ample breaks in between.
This regular scared the bejesus out of me the second workshop, because he seemed much worse than at the first. I thought \"Oh, holy crap! I\'m wrecking native talent!\" but it seems he was just having a bad day.
I find the most rewarding thing about running workshops is the scheduled sit my butt down and paint time it gives me. While the attendees are sitting there patiently practicing a technique, I can idly paint minis until they\'re done with a piece. I usually try to be working the same technique as they are, so I end up with a much nicer product than they have. This lets them see what they should be getting. Now, hopefully, by the end of the day they\'ll be reproducing my work much better than they were at the beginning.
Doing workshops is really rewarding, and I suggest any good painter approach their local game store about doing them. I went from \"Oh, I guess I\'ll do one.\" to \"Same time next week?\" in a remarkably short amount of time, and I am not the teaching type. So, all you kick-butt painters out there, get off your La-Z-Boy and go do a workshop! As an earlier poster said, you\'ll be doing the world, and us, a favor! More mini painters = more demand = more minis for ME! Mua ha ha!
 

Flashman14

Member
That\'s a great story Cerri... Give us updates on that eh?

Where are you doing that? USA? UK? What town and all that ....
 

Cerridwyn1st

New member
Where and when

Flashman14: The workshop is in a store called War Dogs in Jacksonville, FL, USA around 3pm EST every Sunday. If anyone is interested, email me at cerridwyn1st@aol.com.

I like starting around 3 because that\'s when the early crowd starts to die off. There are gamers from mini games finishing up, so hopefully a few of them will stick around to paint.

We started this the begining of November, but I didn\'t expect things to kick off until after the holidays. Just wanted a couple of butts in chairs to get the buzz going.

Thanks, Eparchos, for your input. Helps me see where this (I hope) will be going.
 
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ZeCorto

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Spreading the hobby

I had a somewhat similar experience last sunday, when I provided my wife and kids with minis to paint, my paints and a little advice. It was such a great feeling having the 4 out of 5 of us painting around the dinner table (the baby is only 9 months old and just a little young for painting). Everybody was having fun, specially myself even if I did not get a lot of painting done with everbody asking questions.
My 3 year old was enjoying himself turning his troglodyte blue, then green, then red with great blobs of paints; my 6 year old was carefully painting his snakemen, keeping well within the lines, with reasonable colors; and my wife has started a fantastic wizard, I wish I had done as good a job on my first mini (or on my tenth, but please do not tell her).
Family painting is the best thing there is, combining the two things I love best. It takes a little while to convince everybody to try it, but I was rewarded further on monday when my wife called me at work, asking where I put my brushes...
 

Dragonsreach

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Staff member
ZeCorto:
but I was rewarded further on monday when my wife called me at work, asking where I put my brushes...
Lucky man! Perhaps she\'ll paint up all you mini\'s for you and start to nag you to buy more.............. :rolleyes:
 

Cocanour

New member
I think that is great. I try to help anyone who has questions at the store. I did not know how to paint very well other than drybrushing for 15 years. Still learning by the way.... But giving these guys such a head start should give us some great painters in the furture.
 
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ZeCorto

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Originally posted by Dragonsreach
ZeCorto:
but I was rewarded further on monday when my wife called me at work, asking where I put my brushes...
Lucky man! Perhaps she\'ll paint up all you mini\'s for you and start to nag you to buy more.............. :rolleyes:

Sure, then she\'ll ask me to play Confrontation :duh: well, I can still dream
 

Cerridwyn1st

New member
Painting with the kids

Originally posted by ZeCorto
Originally posted by Dragonsreach
ZeCorto:
but I was rewarded further on monday when my wife called me at work, asking where I put my brushes...
Lucky man! Perhaps she\'ll paint up all you mini\'s for you and start to nag you to buy more.............. :rolleyes:

Sure, then she\'ll ask me to play Confrontation :duh: well, I can still dream

Getting the little ones started ain\'t bad either - painting minis before they hit the second grade :eek: - it boggles the mind what their stuff will look like when they get to their 20\'s.
 
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