lizcam
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I saw This article on AIDs today. Lets hope it turns out to really work. Could save thousands of people!
There may be hope for those with a horrible disease!
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Dragon Forge Design
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Those with the money and resources.. but the untold millions in 3rd world countries will continue to die.
Money would be better off spent teaching people how not to contact the disease or on proven drug cocktails that extend the life span of those afflicted.
Yes it does sound hopeful but in the big picture its not.
Money would be better off spent teaching people how not to contact the disease or on proven drug cocktails that extend the life span of those afflicted.
Yes it does sound hopeful but in the big picture its not.
Ebonbuddha
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As you two know I was in Thailand for two weeks. They had an anti-A.I.D.S commercial on the TV. Basicly, it said don\'t do drugs or go to prostitutes and you will not get A.I.D.S. It would have made sense to say \'wera a condem during sex and don\'t use dirty needles\'.
Educating hte masses isn\'t as good as it could be.
Educating hte masses isn\'t as good as it could be.
Dragon Forge Design
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Of course its not. In places like Africa and India its believed that having sex with a Virgin will cure aids..so not only is its older generations dieing so is its youth. I\'m not saying the research doesn\'t show promise, but its an awful expensive solution plus its only worked once and the results are not long term yet.
lizcam
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what you are saying is true. Education is the best. But without research the will never be a cure and in the end that\'s the most important. Remember how fast these things can happen when the first breakthrough is made. Yes it\'s expensive and most people who have aids now won\'t get any chance of this cure if it is a cure, but it may lead to something else that may lead to something else that may end up curing millions. I choose hope in this case.
freakinacage
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as great as this is for the unfortunates, i have a bad feeling this will result in a rise of other problems. if aids isn\'t the threat that it is now, people may start taking more chances, leading a massive rise of other stds
jerry kurl
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remember though most people in third world countries had no choice when they contracted aids (i not saying people in wetsern countries choose to get aids but by having casual unprotected sex with strangers and sharing dirty needles etc when everyone full well knows the risks) many of the people in africa and other poor worn torn 3rd world countries have been the victim of rape and abuse, i remember one story, i might of been rwanda or something like when the war happened those few years ago the soldiers murdered there way through the male (adult and child) population while raping there way through the female (again adult and child) they deliberatly infected tens of thousands of women with this disease. medicine and not education is the only help and hope these poor people can have. and remember in western \"civilisation\" you dont just get aids from sex and dirty needles, accidents and carlessness also have a contributing factor and the odd crazy mental f*&^%r with a hypo full of dirty blood and a grudge.
wiccanpony
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Better to “try”, then not........we’re dealing with a whole new population who think “it can’t happen to me” mind set or are woefully under educated on safe practices.
a vast amount of people have never had to sit by a hospital bedside and watch someone you care about suffer and die of Aids.
a vast amount of people have never had to sit by a hospital bedside and watch someone you care about suffer and die of Aids.
Farin
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goodd evenign all of you
@lizz: read that article too, naturally, since it was a patient of the Charitè, the biggest (teaching) hospital here in Berlin.
The Story was even bigger in german newspaper and according to his doctors, it can´t be said with absolute certainty if he really is HIV - negativ. His virus load could just be too small for the ELISA test to get a positive result, but let´s hope for all the HIV patients out there that it´s not a false negative.
Unforunately theres even 2more important reason why the doctors try too keep everyone from getting too high expactations: HIV works by destroying white blood cells, and to enter them it uses 2 proteins in the membrane of these cells. It ´s a \" Lock- key - mechanism\" . HIV got the right protein on its membrane to unlock and enter the human cell. The doctors only changed one of the 2 proteins HIV needs to enter the cells by basically rebooting the patients immunsystem with a bownmarrow transplant. There´s still this second protein the HIV Virus could use.
The second reason is pretty obvious: Every AIDS patient would need a bownmarrow transplant, that is not only not rejected by his or her body, the transplant also would have to come from one of the few lucky people in the world who are immun to HIV because they own a different, mutated type of these proteins.
and with the money issue you mentioned: go to wikipedia and read about the african sleeping sickness and it´s therapy: there are only 2 meds in the world that can save people who got infected ( by no fault of theyre own, it´s spread through mosquitos). One is deadly on it´s own in 10 percent because it´s basically arsenic dissolved in antifreeze.
So the pharma corporations developed a new one that´s not deadly and more effective - and more then ten times expensive. Most people in africa can afford it. Of cause theyre donating a small amount because of the public pressure , but it´s not enough.
@lizz: read that article too, naturally, since it was a patient of the Charitè, the biggest (teaching) hospital here in Berlin.
The Story was even bigger in german newspaper and according to his doctors, it can´t be said with absolute certainty if he really is HIV - negativ. His virus load could just be too small for the ELISA test to get a positive result, but let´s hope for all the HIV patients out there that it´s not a false negative.
Unforunately theres even 2more important reason why the doctors try too keep everyone from getting too high expactations: HIV works by destroying white blood cells, and to enter them it uses 2 proteins in the membrane of these cells. It ´s a \" Lock- key - mechanism\" . HIV got the right protein on its membrane to unlock and enter the human cell. The doctors only changed one of the 2 proteins HIV needs to enter the cells by basically rebooting the patients immunsystem with a bownmarrow transplant. There´s still this second protein the HIV Virus could use.
The second reason is pretty obvious: Every AIDS patient would need a bownmarrow transplant, that is not only not rejected by his or her body, the transplant also would have to come from one of the few lucky people in the world who are immun to HIV because they own a different, mutated type of these proteins.
and with the money issue you mentioned: go to wikipedia and read about the african sleeping sickness and it´s therapy: there are only 2 meds in the world that can save people who got infected ( by no fault of theyre own, it´s spread through mosquitos). One is deadly on it´s own in 10 percent because it´s basically arsenic dissolved in antifreeze.
So the pharma corporations developed a new one that´s not deadly and more effective - and more then ten times expensive. Most people in africa can afford it. Of cause theyre donating a small amount because of the public pressure , but it´s not enough.
Bigdennis52
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ahh... the wonders of science
