This is pretty weird.

Shawn R. L.

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I think it's pretty easy to say "that will never happen to me" but I tend to think if the theif is subtile enough he could clean any of us out - [video]http://www.channel4.com/programmes/themes/derren-brown[/video]
 

supervike

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For a short while, Derren Brown had his television show broadcast here in the states. The show was incredibly cool, and that guy is amazing.
 

finn17

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TBH, I think he is a bit of a sleazeball...

I was once short-listed for the task of shooting him in the head:D
 

freakinacage

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was it you compiling the list? i don't think he's sleazy per se, just a bit weird. coupled with the eeevil genius part
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Well, dish the scoop then!

As stated above, I only know him from the TV show I saw.

Are there reasons to dislike him? Are the tricks 'staged'?
 

finn17

New member
No biggie...he just staged an event once where he was going to be shot on live TV and they advertised the thing up by holding a well-publicised recruitment campaign for the 'trigger man'. As I'd like nothing better than to shoot the bugger I volunteered and managed to get through a couple of the selection stages.

He's undoubtedly a very clever man and does use a lot of skill in what he does, but obviously all his tricks are 'staged' to some degree. He's our equivalent of your David Copperfield....

If he was just a showman I might like him a bit more but he writes loads of self-help books 'Get Thin', 'Get Rich' etc which just make him stand out as a bit of a money grubbing attention whore...IMO.
 

supervike

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If he was just a showman I might like him a bit more but he writes loads of self-help books 'Get Thin', 'Get Rich' etc which just make him stand out as a bit of a money grubbing attention whore...IMO.

Ah...yes, that would be a turn off.
 

freakinacage

Well-known member
have you read his book finn? it may change your mind about him. he totally open and explains how he just uses 'tricks' and psychology to work out stuff. he uses a lot of nlp, which is very popular in psychology atm
 

finn17

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have you read his book finn? it may change your mind about him. he totally open and explains how he just uses 'tricks' and psychology to work out stuff. he uses a lot of nlp, which is very popular in psychology atm

No, I don't have time...too busy being a Psychologist;)
 

supervike

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have you read his book finn? it may change your mind about him. he totally open and explains how he just uses 'tricks' and psychology to work out stuff. he uses a lot of nlp, which is very popular in psychology atm

Can you tell us layfolk what NLP means...

I ain't too ken on no book learnin'
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Ok, I read a bit about it. Sounds fascinating. And given the 'founders' use really big words, I'm assuming they're onto (or maybe just on) something.
 

finn17

New member
you kidding me? they loves it! my ex housemate was a psychologist and she couldn't get a job with didn't involve nlp

Exactly! It's simply paradigm du jour:)

They'll be raving about something else tomorrow...psychologists, they're a fickle bunch;)
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Anyhow, I've been watching a few more of Derren Brown's thingies. Extremely impressive. My favorite was when he convinced Simon Pegg that the gift he bought him for his birthday was indeed exactly what Simon wanted. I don't know how much of that is staged or what, but it's pretty cool.

 

RuneBrush

New member
I've just finished listening to "Confessions of a Conjurer" and would recommend it. It's a fairly gentle paced audiobook (guess the book is the same) and it's quite interesting to listen to him explain basically various things that has led him to the "job" that he does today.

His website states "Derren Brown is a performer who combines magic, suggestion, psychology, misdirection and showmanship in order to seemingly predict and control human behaviour, as well as performing mind-bending feats of mentalism" Which pretty much sums up his act completely - note seemingly predict and control. One thing I would also say is that if you see him live he is a fantastic showman, stuff on the telly does paint him as much more serious and dark character.
 
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