Two-part putty, protecting hands
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moonmin82
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i tend to wash my hands after mixing and again after sculpting. i tried mixing with gloves only to find most of the putty stuck to the gloves! was too reluctant to dampen the gloves as i didnt want water within the putty. something i worry about though as the hardener in particular isnt very good for you at all.
i must say though, that i no longer (and wouldnt ever again) lick my tools! i used to use saliva as a lubricant and now use only tap water.
i must say though, that i no longer (and wouldnt ever again) lick my tools! i used to use saliva as a lubricant and now use only tap water.
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
I don\'t wash my hands. Live fast, die young! After I\'m done for the session I wash them up well, but that can be an hour later or so.
Beelzebrush
Active member
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
Veggies are for losers.... try making the shapes into steak looking pieces and you\'ll live way awesomer/longer.
Shawn R. L.
New member
I use Magic Sculpt about 95% of the time and Pro Create the other. I\'ll wet my fingertips and wipe them off but no serious scrubbing...........is this stuff THAT toxic?
I have very oily skin so I just use my forhead for \'lube oil\'...works great and I don\'t (usually) lose the container.
I have very oily skin so I just use my forhead for \'lube oil\'...works great and I don\'t (usually) lose the container.
Dragon Forge Design
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Depends on the putty..
Aves Apoxie sculpt which is certified Non Toxic I mix with gloves because its so gooey at the early stage it sticks to my hands.
Same goes for really fresh Magic Sculp and Milliput.
Green and Brown stuff..nope.
I do wash my hands before eating and preparing food though..but that\'s just common sense.
Aves Apoxie sculpt which is certified Non Toxic I mix with gloves because its so gooey at the early stage it sticks to my hands.
Same goes for really fresh Magic Sculp and Milliput.
Green and Brown stuff..nope.
I do wash my hands before eating and preparing food though..but that\'s just common sense.
lizcam
New member
When I took a class from JBT I watched him not only lick his brush but do so after he had tossed everything from milliput to and old apple core into the rinse water. He also licked his sculpting tools.
But then again, this IS the guy who painted a mini mid-air while sky diving so I guess he\'s used to living on the edge.
But then again, this IS the guy who painted a mini mid-air while sky diving so I guess he\'s used to living on the edge.
greenstuff irritates my fingers so I have to wash afterwards. Any of the epoxy putties are are going to burn or irritate to s certain extent, but the absolute worst was some epoxy putty from Home Depot for fixing pipes. That crap hurt like the devil for hours no matter how much I scrubbed it with soap. It was a true chemical burn after mixing without gloves. Brown putty does something similar to my hands, but not as bad as that pipe fixer putty.
I pretty much avoid all putties now and just use fimo for sculpting, although those can even irritate to a slight extent because of the plasticizers.
I pretty much avoid all putties now and just use fimo for sculpting, although those can even irritate to a slight extent because of the plasticizers.
freakinacage
Well-known member
not when using gs. sometimes if apxie sculpt, milliput or magic sculp gets messy i will wash my hands though
moonmin82
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i believe all epoxy putties arent good for you (contain bisphenol i think, which can cause cancer). they can also cause sensitisation by prolonged skin contact.
polymer clays contain plasticisers to keep them soft and pliable. again, these arent good for you!
id imagine the worst things you could do would be to lick your tool (not only due to the nasties in the putty but also the chemicals and lubricants used in the manufacture of the metal tool) or to get epoxy dissolved in solvent on you (for whatever reason you might do this! as this would be a direct route into your body... very very bad!).
the problem with peoples attitudes to chemicals is a lot like smoking - if there is no instant negative effect (like a burn for example), people think theyre invincible. with a lot of chemicals the hazards occur over the long term (such as cancers and infertility etc).
stay safe, stay happy! back to the lab
polymer clays contain plasticisers to keep them soft and pliable. again, these arent good for you!
id imagine the worst things you could do would be to lick your tool (not only due to the nasties in the putty but also the chemicals and lubricants used in the manufacture of the metal tool) or to get epoxy dissolved in solvent on you (for whatever reason you might do this! as this would be a direct route into your body... very very bad!).
the problem with peoples attitudes to chemicals is a lot like smoking - if there is no instant negative effect (like a burn for example), people think theyre invincible. with a lot of chemicals the hazards occur over the long term (such as cancers and infertility etc).
stay safe, stay happy! back to the lab
Einion
New member
Thanks for the responses folks.
I scrub my hands immediately after mixing, in addition to using talc to help prevent transfer with MagicSculp or Apoxie Sculp. If I\'m mixing up a large quantity I\'ll wear nitrile gloves.
Gloves
Anyone who\'s tried the glove route and found there was too much sticking going on, or that the loose folds near the fingers get caught in the putty mass, I\'d recommend trying the roll-and-fold method between the palms. This helps sidestep most problems... although it\'s not nearly as satisfying as smooshing the putty between the fingertips!
More in threads on planetFigure for anyone interested:
Two part putties are NOT harmless
Two-part putty mixing poll
The polymer-clay crowd - makers of all the beads, jewellery, fairy sculpts etc. - are well aware of this and there\'s a lot of cautionary advice online (to the extent of not using the same oven as you\'d cook food in, for example), but it doesn\'t seem to have percolated into the modelling community much or at all.
Einion
I scrub my hands immediately after mixing, in addition to using talc to help prevent transfer with MagicSculp or Apoxie Sculp. If I\'m mixing up a large quantity I\'ll wear nitrile gloves.
Gloves
Anyone who\'s tried the glove route and found there was too much sticking going on, or that the loose folds near the fingers get caught in the putty mass, I\'d recommend trying the roll-and-fold method between the palms. This helps sidestep most problems... although it\'s not nearly as satisfying as smooshing the putty between the fingertips!
Ditto. I do still lick a tool every now and then when I\'m not paying attention, but have pretty much cured myself of the habit thankfully.
Basically any of the ones that have to be mixed with the hands - GS, BS, WS, MagicSculp, Apoxie Sculpt, ProCreate, Milliput, Sylmasta, A+B and the like.
No, it\'s not toxic per se. But the ingredients can cause sensitisation, leading to contact dermatitis and other reactions (some of them much worse) down the line. Once you become sensitised you can become very sensitive to them; so much so that you couldn\'t work with them without gloves and a respirator.
More in threads on planetFigure for anyone interested:
Two part putties are NOT harmless
Two-part putty mixing poll
Well that\'s something he should definitely not pass on to others as a good working methodology.
The polymer-clay crowd - makers of all the beads, jewellery, fairy sculpts etc. - are well aware of this and there\'s a lot of cautionary advice online (to the extent of not using the same oven as you\'d cook food in, for example), but it doesn\'t seem to have percolated into the modelling community much or at all.
If traces of lubricant are present it would only be a short-term problem at least. However the tool, unless cleaned, will of course be continuously supplied with residual sculpting compound.
Einion
Einion
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Brush licking...
...is no joke, as it\'s about the only way most people can expose themselves to pigments, some of which may have toxic effects. With hobby paints in particular, who has any idea what pigments are in them*? If we were using artists\' paints we\'d tend to be more careful of cadmium, selenium, chromium and cobalt pigments but which Vallejo, Reaper, GW or P3 paints contain them?
Best to just avoid exposure entirely. It\'s not just the heavy-metal compounds that one should worry about as even the synthetic-organic pigments (all paint ranges will have these numerous ones) could have cumulative effects for you; doesn\'t matter if someone else can lick their brush with impunity for their entire painting career.
*Not to mention the stabilisers, anti-fungal agent (e.g. formaldehyde), anti-foaming additives, humectant (e.g. glycols).
Einion
...is no joke, as it\'s about the only way most people can expose themselves to pigments, some of which may have toxic effects. With hobby paints in particular, who has any idea what pigments are in them*? If we were using artists\' paints we\'d tend to be more careful of cadmium, selenium, chromium and cobalt pigments but which Vallejo, Reaper, GW or P3 paints contain them?
Best to just avoid exposure entirely. It\'s not just the heavy-metal compounds that one should worry about as even the synthetic-organic pigments (all paint ranges will have these numerous ones) could have cumulative effects for you; doesn\'t matter if someone else can lick their brush with impunity for their entire painting career.
*Not to mention the stabilisers, anti-fungal agent (e.g. formaldehyde), anti-foaming additives, humectant (e.g. glycols).
Einion
Ok I just did a bit o sculpting a few hours back, I was using milliput which Ive heard is bad news and I licked both the tool and my finger a few times. Although Ive never had ill effects in the past from any other putties I am having serious difficulty keeping my lunch down and my teeth hurt. It may not be the putty but since its the first time that Ive used milliput extensively Im putting it down to that.
