Here\'s my second mini. The pictures aren\'t great, but I\'m trying to get better, clearer pictures. They\'re just not coming out right for some reason.
Tyden (second mini)
Tyden (second mini)
Tyden, Female Barbarian
- Thread starter Hinton
- Start date
demonherald
New member
looks like pretty solid painting..
Photos are the bane of cmoners 8 months and I\'m still experimenting..
I\'m sure someone on here will give you a hand they have with me.....
no expert but looks like the lighting could be a bit low. Also when you need a close up rather than getting closer to the mini take a good normal distance shot and zoom with a photo edit program.
As I say no expert but some of the guys on here may offeryou some advice...or have a look through the photography threads and articles....
Photos are the bane of cmoners 8 months and I\'m still experimenting..
I\'m sure someone on here will give you a hand they have with me.....
no expert but looks like the lighting could be a bit low. Also when you need a close up rather than getting closer to the mini take a good normal distance shot and zoom with a photo edit program.
As I say no expert but some of the guys on here may offeryou some advice...or have a look through the photography threads and articles....
funnymouth
Active member
did the v&c. good show for your second. work on that base!
Hi Hinton, hope what I\'m about to say will help you;
I think the darker background helps, as above rather than your posting.
Theres a mould line under the left armpit to the elbow, these will instantly score you right down.
You need to put darker shading between each element, and highlight it a bit. What paint are you using?
You need fine rubble on the base as it looks like she is sinking into it.
your not far off on the eyes, just needs a dark outline and be slightly smaller.
voted, keep up the good work, and dont rush
I think the darker background helps, as above rather than your posting.
Theres a mould line under the left armpit to the elbow, these will instantly score you right down.
You need to put darker shading between each element, and highlight it a bit. What paint are you using?
You need fine rubble on the base as it looks like she is sinking into it.
your not far off on the eyes, just needs a dark outline and be slightly smaller.
voted, keep up the good work, and dont rush
demonherald: Thanks for the advice on photography. I think I might be getting the hang of it. The new ones seem better, but I\'m still not happy with them. I\'m going to keep working on it and see if I can\'t get some quality pics before I finish my next mini.
funnymouth: Thank you for the compliment and the advice on the base; I really do appreciate it. I know it\'s something I need to work on.
krom1415: Hey, any and all advice helps; I\'ll never turn it away.
I kept trying light backgrounds (per the majority of advice I\'ve seen) and it just kept coming out dark. Thought I\'d try a dark background. Seems to work.
I thought I got that mold line, but after I had the basecoat on I noticed it was still there. Really irritated me. I also found one on the left leg; you just can\'t see it the pics. (BTW, I\'m not so much concered with the score; just looking for advice from as many sources as possible).
The eyes do have a dark outline. Guess it needs to be a little darker. And yeah, they do look a bit big.
Again, thanks for the advice.
funnymouth: Thank you for the compliment and the advice on the base; I really do appreciate it. I know it\'s something I need to work on.
krom1415: Hey, any and all advice helps; I\'ll never turn it away.
I kept trying light backgrounds (per the majority of advice I\'ve seen) and it just kept coming out dark. Thought I\'d try a dark background. Seems to work.
I thought I got that mold line, but after I had the basecoat on I noticed it was still there. Really irritated me. I also found one on the left leg; you just can\'t see it the pics. (BTW, I\'m not so much concered with the score; just looking for advice from as many sources as possible).
The eyes do have a dark outline. Guess it needs to be a little darker. And yeah, they do look a bit big.
Again, thanks for the advice.
demonherald
New member
a couple of thin glazes with watered down Brown ink will help give some of the definition needed and will also help to just liven the colours up a little as looks a bit chalky at the mo....
second pics are better..To help with finding mould lines I generally wash black ink over a model before undercoating to check for any I may have missed.
second pics are better..To help with finding mould lines I generally wash black ink over a model before undercoating to check for any I may have missed.
hubbabubba
New member
Hi Hinton.
Your painting looks really tidy, great for only your second.
I think what you need to start looking at now is tonal contrast on the different areas of colour.
Keep posting them.
Your painting looks really tidy, great for only your second.
I think what you need to start looking at now is tonal contrast on the different areas of colour.
Keep posting them.
krom1415: Sorry; I forgot to mention this, but I\'m using Reaper Master Series paints.
hubbabubba: I\'m pretty new to this and I do apologize if this seems like a dumb question, but what exactly do you mean by \"tonal contrast on the different areas of colour\"? Do you mean using colors that aren\'t so close to each other? Could you perhaps give me an example? Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words all. I knew it wasn\'t going to be easy to get into this hobby, but the advice and words of encouragement really help. I really do appreciate it.
hubbabubba: I\'m pretty new to this and I do apologize if this seems like a dumb question, but what exactly do you mean by \"tonal contrast on the different areas of colour\"? Do you mean using colors that aren\'t so close to each other? Could you perhaps give me an example? Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words all. I knew it wasn\'t going to be easy to get into this hobby, but the advice and words of encouragement really help. I really do appreciate it.
hubbabubba
New member
It\'s my fault for being ambiguous....
Basically, different materials reflect light in different ways, flesh more than most fabrics, metal more than flesh (depending on it\'s state, polished rusty etc) The idea for me, is to exagerate the way light reflects off a 3d surface, so tonality is the different values of light on any particular surface. (think of a sphere, one sides always darker than the other although the sphere is the same colour all over.
Dryrushing,blending, washes are all different techniques you can use to best represent different textures and surfaces, and the way they reflect light.
It\'s alot easier said than done, I myself still have an enormous amout to learn, but if you have a quick look through the tuorials, you\'ll find articles on drybrushing, blending washes etc, and through experimenting you\'ll get to grips with what you find most rewarding.
Hope I haven\'t gone over the top... hope it helps.
Basically, different materials reflect light in different ways, flesh more than most fabrics, metal more than flesh (depending on it\'s state, polished rusty etc) The idea for me, is to exagerate the way light reflects off a 3d surface, so tonality is the different values of light on any particular surface. (think of a sphere, one sides always darker than the other although the sphere is the same colour all over.
Dryrushing,blending, washes are all different techniques you can use to best represent different textures and surfaces, and the way they reflect light.
It\'s alot easier said than done, I myself still have an enormous amout to learn, but if you have a quick look through the tuorials, you\'ll find articles on drybrushing, blending washes etc, and through experimenting you\'ll get to grips with what you find most rewarding.
Hope I haven\'t gone over the top... hope it helps.
MPJ
New member
Regarding bases: While getting used to them go with less (or none if\'s a mini with it\'s own sculpted base) and smaller flock/gravel. Fine sand type stuff, work your way up to the bigger stuff which can overwhelm a mini (as yours is).
Regarding contrast: While black (or blue, brown, grey, whichever) lining can be overdone perhaps working on this will help give your mini definition. As an example around the metal armor paint a very thin black (or dark grey) line tight up to it. Do a similar dark brown line around the straps on the boots and skin. Lining is a technique that has it\'s places but can be overdone but in the beginning use it a lot for the practice and you\'ll learn when and where it\'s best used as you go.
Regarding contrast: While black (or blue, brown, grey, whichever) lining can be overdone perhaps working on this will help give your mini definition. As an example around the metal armor paint a very thin black (or dark grey) line tight up to it. Do a similar dark brown line around the straps on the boots and skin. Lining is a technique that has it\'s places but can be overdone but in the beginning use it a lot for the practice and you\'ll learn when and where it\'s best used as you go.
Not losing any time are you ?
Being a newbmyself I can say go for it man!
Seriously, youre sitting on some solid bases now I\'ll be looking forward to see your progress.
Voted 5, since I dont vote on experience, a very good score for a second ( Mine got 3.6 and is the worst thing I ever done )
Being a newbmyself I can say go for it man!
Seriously, youre sitting on some solid bases now I\'ll be looking forward to see your progress.
Voted 5, since I dont vote on experience, a very good score for a second ( Mine got 3.6 and is the worst thing I ever done
)Here\'s a good example of the contrast and lining between elements
http://www.coolminiornot.com/68861
hope it helps, as to paints, I\'m not versed in reaper paint but as long as you have a good variety, its OK. Also dont always lighten paint with white or darken with black
http://www.coolminiornot.com/68861
hope it helps, as to paints, I\'m not versed in reaper paint but as long as you have a good variety, its OK. Also dont always lighten paint with white or darken with black
hubbabubba: No apology needed. I\'m sure people saw what you posted and understood it immediately. I\'m pretty new to this and didn\'t understand what it meant exactly. Thanks for explaining; it does help.
MPJ: I think I\'m going to stick with the regular bases for now, at least until I get better at painting the mini itself. Thanks for the tips on lining. It was something that I was having a bit of trouble with.
GreenOne: Thanks for the encouragement. It\'s great that so many people are taking time to post and help me out. Like I\'ve said, I know I\'ve got a long way to go, but I\'ll keep practicing. Having people offer support and advice helps keep me from getting discouraged.
krom1415: Nice mini! That definitely clears a few things up. The RMS paints are nice because they already have flow improver in them. As far as lightening and darkening paint, that\'s exactly what I\'ve been doing: using white and black. I\'ll look at some alternative choices on how to lighten and darken without those. Thanks!
MPJ: I think I\'m going to stick with the regular bases for now, at least until I get better at painting the mini itself. Thanks for the tips on lining. It was something that I was having a bit of trouble with.
GreenOne: Thanks for the encouragement. It\'s great that so many people are taking time to post and help me out. Like I\'ve said, I know I\'ve got a long way to go, but I\'ll keep practicing. Having people offer support and advice helps keep me from getting discouraged.
krom1415: Nice mini! That definitely clears a few things up. The RMS paints are nice because they already have flow improver in them. As far as lightening and darkening paint, that\'s exactly what I\'ve been doing: using white and black. I\'ll look at some alternative choices on how to lighten and darken without those. Thanks!
