Using Greenstuff

[Goosefeather]

thanks for the tips folks. Just used some GS to fill and sculpt a massive gap where my Mino's head joins the body. Suprised how easy it is to work with this stuff. I love it!

 

[Chrispy]

Question: has anyone used both Magic sculp and Apoxie, and how do they stack up? I ask because there seems to be a big difference in prices. I just saw a youtube vid that says you can mix Sculp with GS to make the consistency thinner when "wet" and hard enough to sand when dry. I know from personal experience not all 2 part epoxies are equal. Just tried some JBWeld stuff and it's horrid for trying to sculpt detail as it's too sticky and runny.

 

[Einion]

Question: has anyone used both Magic sculp and Apoxie, and how do they stack up?

Yes, and yes.




Obviously you'll want a few more details so:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?17572-Request-Differences-between-modeling-clays
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?48779-Conversion-Firebal
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?50417-Apoxie-Sculpt-vs-Magic-Sculpt

As I mention in at least one of the above threads, Apoxie Sculpt and MagicSculp ar similar enough that they could be used interchangeably if you get along with them. But just in case you don't know, in addition to AS Apoxie also make Apoxie Clay which is quite a bit different in feel, much stiffer (also a bit more expensive).

I ask because there seems to be a big difference in prices.

Although Apoxie Sculpt is consistently more expensive than MagicSculp there shouldn't be a huge difference in cost for the larger packs. Where were you pricing them? Some places really gouge, especially for some of the colours.

I'd highly recommend the larger packs in case you were only looking to get smaller amounts. They both keep very well, shelf life is indefinite for MS now according to the manufacturer claims, and it can be extended if necessary... like if you need the stuff to last for a decade.

I just saw a youtube vid that says you can mix Sculp with GS to make the consistency thinner when "wet" and hard enough to sand when dry.

Yep, you can do this using any of the clay-like putties added to Kneadatite. Although you can sand it straight to a degree.

The main thing to explore when you have one (or both) of the alternatives is whether you use the Kneadatite at all.

Einion

 

[Chrispy]

Thanks Einon, I was browsing Amazon from MS and Apoxie, and it seemed in the 1lb stuff Apoxie was $25 while MS was $16.. I've found some similarly matched prices for different suppliers on the same site, so I think it is just a question of what people want to charge. I'm not sure I'm going to be using 5lbs of the stuff- but I say this with the intention of sculpting custom 1/6 or 1/8th scale figures eventually in the back of my mind, so there is that. It may just be a matter of convincing Mom to make room in the freezer. The hot and arid weather here is not a friend to things marked "store in a cool, dry place".

 

[Goblinhood]

Erm just seen this.
I've not encountered an inability to sand greenstuff, either traditional GS or liquid.

I've never had a problem sanding GS either. If I am just filling gaps on a model or base ,I don't like using expensive epoxies. I use Elmers Wood filler. It is water soluable, doesn't need mixing. It sticks to anything. Its cheap and can be purchased at any department or hardware store. I am curious about Aves Apoxie Sculpt Sculpt, can it withstand vulcanized mold making?

 

[Einion]

Thanks Einon, I was browsing Amazon from MS and Apoxie, and it seemed in the 1lb stuff Apoxie was $25 while MS was $16.. I've found some similarly matched prices for different suppliers on the same site, so I think it is just a question of what people want to charge.

Check the shipping. Pretty sure of the seller in question there and their low-low prices are offset by high shipping, high enough that the price is then pretty much the same as other vendors (listing the item with free shipping, so the price listed is the price).

Also be sure to check the colour being offered - "Natural" is cheapest. Even white is a colour and consequently a bit more.

The natural colour of MagicSculp is a very light grey, perfectly fine IMB so no need to get anything else unless you have a preference for working with clay of a specific colour.

The natural colour of Apoxie Sculpt is sort of a mid-grey, but it's also very slightly translucent. This is barely noticeable, however the colours are all more opaque apparently so with AS it can be worthwhile getting one of them if you don't have to pay a lot extra for it.

I'm not sure I'm going to be using 5lbs of the stuff- but I say this with the intention of sculpting custom 1/6 or 1/8th scale figures eventually in the back of my mind, so there is that.

This might help make the decision for you: the 4lb kit (AS) and the 5lb kit (MS) are less than double the cost of a 1lb kit! Makes it a bit of a no-brainer, yah?

I am curious about Aves Apoxie Sculpt Sculpt, can it withstand vulcanized mold making?

In short, yes - many white metal figs have masters made from Apoxie Sculpt.

Einion