VGC consistency

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absolutrudy

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I\'ve noticed in other posts that the VGC line does not need as much thinning for layering and blending as does VMC.

If this is true, how thin does it need to be for these techniques?
1:2, 1:3, 1:4?
Just curious.
Thanks.
:|~
 
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Equus

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Depends on what you\'re doing. I haven\'t been able to judge it very well, but I\'ve only recently started working with significantly thinned paints at all. Most of the time, around 1:2 is what I use at the most concentrated for base coats, going up to 1:6 or 1:8 or so for glazes and washes and stuff.
 
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Ritual

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You\'re right about the consistency! Concerning paint/water ratios that\'s a highly individual matter. It depends on what you are comfortable working with. Personally I don\'t thin my paint that much on the pallette, but use a moist brush so the paint gets thinner when I apply it. Through practice and experience I know instinctively how much water I need to store in the brush for what I am about to paint. If you are used to VMC try using about 2/3 of the amount of water you would thin the same amount of VMC with. That\'s my guess at how to handle the difference in consistency, but you\'ll need to experiment and find out what you are comfortable with.

BTW, I forgot to welcome you to the forums in the previous thread so I\'ll take this opportunity to do so! :D
 
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Equus

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Oh yeah...where is my mind? Oh wait...it\'s probably still pickled from this weekend.

Welcome! :D
 
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absolutrudy

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thanks

thanks. I\'ve known about this site for a while, but somehow did not log on and become a member until yesterday. If I over post, its because I have a lot of questions, and want to achieve the skill level of many of you.

Thanks again for the welcome!
 
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Ritual

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Don\'t worry about over-posting! By this time people like Marineboy or MarkusTay would have made Senior Member... lol
 
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Equus

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Hey, I resemble that remark. ;)

And questions are good. Personally, on a more on-topic note, I\'ve been struggling with the consistency on VGC and having problems with even coverage on things not getting splotchy. That may have to do with bad habits while I\'m mixing the paint or not shaking it enough though too.
 
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Equus

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:p

Tho ya have to admit, at one year in joining after you and at 66% of your post count, I\'m not THAT out of control.

Just a desk job that can get very boring. lol
 
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absolutrudy

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interesting

its funny that al of us mini painters are supposed to be working insted of talking about our favorite hobby! :)

Anyway, I agree about the splotchyness of VGC. I ended up buying almost the entire VGC line before doing my homework and realizing I should have just invested in VMC. Currently I\'m doing a deth shroud from Reaper(looks like a wrinkly blanket gone mad) and am Highlighting and shading the outside red. My lightest highlight is VMC Vermillion, which seems to take over some of the under colors. So, its most certainly something I\'m struggling with as well.

Do masterpainters use Future Floor Wax?
 
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Ritual

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I prefer to use VMC for base coats due to it\'s superior covering. There are other colours where I prefer VGC, though, like white which is much too thick and lumpy in the VMC range.

I don\'t use FFW, but then I\'m not a master painter either. :) I use Liquitex flow improver, though. Does the same thing except giving the paint the extra durability.
 
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Sturmhalo

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And by the way... welcome to the forums Absolutrudy...

You will notice I am an irritable bastard who is usually fuelled by alcohol and a general feeling of rage.

:D
 
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Equus

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Originally posted by Sturmhalo
You will notice I am an irritable bastard who is usually fuelled by alcohol and a general feeling of rage.
Click to expand...

Yup...he said it, not us. :innocent:

I\'ve used FFW sparingly in my thinning solution, and honestly I can\'t say that I have seen that much of a difference. Beyond the artificial fruity smell and the coats coming out a little more on the gloss side. I have seen it used very effectively on effects, such as larger scale models and eyes. In those cases though, I usually use it more as a varnish than anything else.
 
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Sturmhalo

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I still maintain that it is not a science... what works for one person won\'t necessarily work for another... it\'s not paint by numbers. To be fair... painting guides are useless to a greater extent too! Handy to know how someone does something, but you\'ll always do it your own way in the end!
 
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