warcolours metallic paints - beta testing

[poison_]

hello guys
after the successful launch of our paint range warcolours (www.warcolours.com) we are now formulating a range of metallic paints.

we have managed to make a really good metallic paint that offers great coverage and unparalleled shine.
the price will be a bit higher though (but still cheap).

since warcolours is all about end-user involvement, we are offering 30 bottles of metallic paint for FREE*. You just have to test them for us and let us know of your comments.

the bottles are available at a first come first served basis at the following link:
http://www.warcolours.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=74


thank you once again for the support and helping out to make WARCOLOURS




*add it for free to your order or pay only the shipping (3.00 euros worldwide)

 

[fluisterwoud]

I'm actually in need of a good copper, can't wait to get this one.

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

Just got mine ordered, looking forward to giving this a try.

 

[Darthmarsh]

Just ordered one and have a perfect project in mind. I'll report back as soon as I can. Also I doff my hat at you, this is a wonderful way to do business :good:

Thanks

Tim

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

First to compare to the other coppers I have, Vallejo and GW Beaten Copper



The first thing I noticed was what appeared separation. This happening within 20 mins of being left standing.



However, this was literally two shakes of the bottle. And I do mean two up and down shakes.



Then for the application
Breast Plate - GW
As you look - Left thigh Vallejo
Right thigh - Warcolours

I have to say this is the most vivid copper I have ever seen. One I applied a couple of coats on top of Vallejo primer I thought, christ, its pure copper piping in a bottle.
I kid you not the colour is that vivid. The picture is poor and my apologies for that as it does not even begin to capture how good the colour is.



The application was very smooth and the paint still had that transparent quality. I deliberately used the paints pure and found they still need two coats for coverage.

I did a test with some other brands to see how they mix. Vallejo Silver was added for a highlight and Army Painter Strong Tone for the shade. No issues to report, everything worked together as you would expect of any paint range



Finally I added a coat of Vallejo Matt Varnish and once again no issues to report.


I put the Copper through my AB and again found the coverage to be good. It does need a little work compared to other brands to get your mix right as I kept getting mine too thin. Even then it still performed very well with good even coverage.
My wife is a bit of an expert on colours and I showed her the first photo you see of the figure. The only one she referred to as Copper was Warcolours the other two she was not impressed with.
I can honestly say that I am totally enthralled by the copper. It has a brightness quality that I have never seen in any other paint. This paint is as i say, Brand New Copper Piping in a paint pot.
I look forward to trying the other metals and so far can recommend these to others whose skills and knowledge are greater than mine.

 

[oistene]

My first impression is that I love the fact that you added an agitator to the bottle. Doesn't matter that it separates, it is fixed in a second. I also like the very vivd color - I've just done one test so far, but more are around the corner. I actually don't have any other copper to compare it with, only various shades of bronze.

 

[poison_]

First to compare to the other coppers I have, Vallejo and GW Beaten Copper


The first thing I noticed was what appeared separation. This happening within 20 mins of being left standing.



However, this was literally two shakes of the bottle. And I do mean two up and down shakes.



Then for the application
Breast Plate - GW
As you look - Left thigh Vallejo
Right thigh - Warpaints

I have to say this is the most vivid copper I have ever seen. One I applied a couple of coats on top of Vallejo primer I thought, christ, its pure copper piping in a bottle.
I kid you not the colour is that vivid. The picture is poor and my apologies for that as it does not even begin to capture how good the colour is.



The application was very smooth and the paint still had that transparent quality. I deliberately used the paints pure and found they still need two coats for coverage.

I did a test with some other brands to see how they mix. Vallejo Silver was added for a highlight and Army Painter Strong Tone for the shade. No issues to report, everything worked together as you would expect of any paint range



Finally I added a coat of Vallejo Matt Varnish and once again no issues to report.


I put the Copper through my AB and again found the coverage to be good. It does need a little work compared to other brands to get your mix right as I kept getting mine too thin. Even then it still performed very well with good even coverage.
My wife is a bit of an expert on colours and I showed her the first photo you see of the figure. The only one she referred to as Copper was Warpaints, the other two she was not impressed with.
I can honestly say that I am totally enthralled by the copper. It has a brightness quality that I have never seen in any other paint. This paint is as i say, Brand New Copper Piping in a paint pot.
I look forward to trying the other metals and so far can recommend these to others whose skills and knowledge are greater than mine.

Thank you gandalf for you support and review. really appreciated.
i am really happy that you liked the paint. I believe that the actual paint must not be that thin (resulted to be a bit thinner than I originally intended). For the actual product, I will try to make them a bit more concentrated, and maybe they will not need second coat.
for the separation i am not sure how to sort it out at the moment. still working on it.

 

[Zab]

All metallics have that problem. Don't sweat it too hard. Hell i love scale 75 metallics, but I have to shake them like crazy before use Two shakes sounds more than reasonable to me!

 

[fluisterwoud]

Great review Gandalf, I'm excited to try mine out, whenever the Chicago customs get off their asses and do their job.

 

[Trevor]

So I have had a chance to have a quick go with the copper Iwas sent.

The colour is incredible, it really is just like new copper pipe. Not just in colour, but in lustre, it looks like real metal. Hands down the best copper colour I have seen – reminds me of the Vallejo alcohol metallics, but with none of the disadvantages of these. I’m very keen to try out a gold.
The bottles are great, includes agitator, yay!
The paint is very liquid, even more than Vallejo Air, which means it needs at least a couple of coats (but Poison says this batch is thinner than aimed for, so this will hopefully improve). I would not go a lot thicker, just enough to enable it to cling to surfaces better - I was painting a large skull on scenery and the raised parts were not covered, whilst the depressions were fine.
The paint goes on very well, nice and smooth and flows well. There was some separation on the palette, but I never find this to be a problem.
This paint reminded me a bit of a P3 gold I have, which when you paint it on it looks very blotchy/lumpy and as if it is not covering, but when it dries it looks fine. The warcolour paint is very liquid, it goes on almost like a wash, and it did not look like it was covering very well at all, BUT when it had dried the coverage was much better (although it still needed a second coat).
Whether this is a problem or not really depends upon what you are painting and your level. If you are army painting you really want colours that give good coverage in one coat. If you are display painting youare probably doing more than one coat anyway and a bit of translucency could be useful for layering. I wonder if it is possible to do different translucency versions as in the main range?
That is all I have had time to do so far, but based on my experience so far, these are better than Vallejo Air. I will buy more of them.

 

[fluisterwoud]

Okay so I got my bottle yesterday. Complaining about the customs people worked like a charm. For this review, I'm going to pretend like I didn't read either review already posted or Poison's response.

First impression, clearly the bottle was agitated a lot in mail which highlighted how thin the paint was. It looked like a bottle of soda had been shaken up, bubbles everywhere. Seems like an airbrush paint.

I didn't have time to test it right away so I let it sit overnight. Came to it this morning and saw major separation:

After a single shake of the bottle, everything was all mixed up again

So it mixes extremely well and the separation is really no issue. Now I want to mention the bottle in general. First, it has an agitator in it which is awesome, saves me the trouble of using my own. Next, compared to the bottles I got in the last beta test this one is much firmer and harder to squeeze. To me this is a good thing. With softer bottles it's easy to pour out more paint than you really want to use, with this bottle a firm squeeze gives a single drop of paint. Very easy to make sure you get the exact amount of paint you want from the bottle.

Putting the paint on the pallet; the paint is super thin, looks like it's meant to go straight from the bottle to an airbrush. I can see how this would be a problem for some people, but I tend to over-thin my metallic paints anyway so I'm very much used to painting with this consistency.

I decided to test it against the only other copper color I have, Army Painter Weapon Bronze (which is actually very copper colored). I tested straight from the bottle, no thinning or medium used in either paint.
First coat: Left is Warcolour right is Army Painter

Even though it's about 3x as thinned down as the Army Painter it covered slightly better on the first coat.
Second coat:

So after the second coat the Warcolour one was 95% covered and the Army Painter was good to go. I put a third coat on the left one and it was perfect. With how thin it is, I think getting full coverage in three coats is very good.

How it looks on the model: It looks like I actually copper-plated the sword. It looks like every piece of copper wiring and tubing I've ever used. I really like it and want to try some silvers and golds.

 

[Antar000]

Just received my beta test copper, and it's great. Behaves very liquid, like an alcohol-based paint (a thin Tamiya, or Vallejo's alcohol metallics), but with none of the downsides (tackiness, ultra-fast drying time). It's very thin but covers amazingly well despite that fact, even thinned over black it shouldn't require more than 2-3 passes (as others have said). There is one downside: the metallic pigment flakes are a tad larger than other paints I have (Scale75, Vallejo Model Air, etc.), but they're not bad, closer in size to P3 paints. The real kicker, though, is how vibrant the color is. It's so shiny and bright as to almost be hypnotic, and I don't think I've seen any other metallic paint with that kind of saturated, truly metallic-looking color. There's a tough market for wargames paint out there, but Warcolours, I think you're going to be able to carve a niche.

 

[tomaso]

I tested my bottle this week. After airbrushing a coat of Vallejo black primer on a piece of round brass tubing that was innocently laying around my bench, I thinned the paint a bit with distilled water. It flows nicely and I was able to keep the coat fairly smooth, though there were a few lumps here and there. I found that I needed three thin coats to get proper coverage and the result looks fantastic! I must admit that after two coats I was a bit skeptical, but the third did the trick. It looks like metal. I'm pretty excited to try the whole line of metallics after playing around with this color. The photo shows the subject with a bit of weathering. I think it looks pretty convincing and I am looking for a subject to try the new copper on.

I plan to try the copper through my airbrush this week over Tamiya primer and see how that works as well. I will post some photos when I get to it.

tom

 

[tomaso]

Okay...I shot the Warcolours Copper through my Peak C-5 (.03 tip). The first coat was shot at 10psi with the paint thinned 1:1. I'm finding that thinning with water does not seem to work so well for me. Lots of tip drying and spotty coverage. The paint shows lots of bumps. I thinned the next batch with Vallejo airbrush thinner about 8:1

nd misted thin coats on to finish at 15psi. It flowed much better. No tip dry. I was able to finish in a few minutes with good coverage.

This figure was primed with Tamiya grey primer from the can. Very smooth and fully cured. I think I primed this figure about 5 years ago.

I'm pretty sure if I had gone thinner to begin with that my results would have been smoother. I'm gonna try another combination with the airbrush tomorrow and see what I get.

 

[WTS]

Sorry for the lack of photos.

Fist of all fast delivery to the UK, thank you.

As for the paint, very happy so far. It's not too bright, not too dark and it goes on very smooth. I found it only needed a small amount of water as it's thin without sacrificing coverage, which is a nice change as I find some metallic paint to be quite thick.

I'm using it on top of a dark brass Base coat for a nurgle army and it works very well.

It separated out similar to how it does in the bottle on my wet pallette but it just need a quick mix and it was ready to go.

I'll update with photos.