wash and glaze - the difference?

[Rev]

A simple question mabye?

but whats the difference between a wash and a glaze?

a wash is supposed to shade a base colour - correct?

a glaze is supposed to \'pull colours together\' after highlighting?

if i wanted to do a wash and a glaze on the same model using the same colour - what consistencies would i use?

i\'m wanting to use a dark (maybe catachan) green over GW ogre flesh spray.

thanks!

rev

 

[Ritual]

Basically, the difference is mostly in how it\'s applied. Both can be done using heavily diluted paint. A wash is applied liberally so that the paint runs into the crevices. A glaze is spread out over an already painted area so that it slightly tints the underlying colour (here you should have less paint on the brush, so that the paint doesn\'t pool and gather in the crevices).

So, washing and glazing with the same colour should be no problem. Just do one of them first and let it dry completly, then do the other.

 

[Orb]

Spot on from Ritual. Two techniques that can be used in different ways

regarding glazes, I\'m starting to think on them as some Armour modellers do: as \"filters\", where the paint is very thin and is used to alter the colour of the base coat. Kind of like a photographic filter..........

 

[Rev]

thats very helpful thx guys -

so what colour glaze do u use as ur filter? a shade? a highlight?

i\'ve heard purple glazes can be used on anything!

 

[Orb]

in principal you could use any colour you want; this is such a thinned consistency it may actually be hard to see initially (this is how I view it of course) and experimentation is the key.

Personally I would use a glaze to add interest to a colour that on it\'s own may appear flat and boring. It\'s really hard to explain!!!

 

[Ritual]

I often add glazes on skin areas. You can add blue or purple glazes to make the skin look colder and less \"alive\" and use orange, brown or red glazes to make the skin look more flushed or tanned. A dark green wash can decrease the saturation of the flesh somewhat. You can combine these to make interesting effects and make the skin look less flat.

 

[Thecadian]

i some times use glazes if i over highlight pulls the colours together

james

 

[Trevor]

As I understood it, glazes were more watered down than washes. (as well as what ritual said).

 

[farseerlum]

i think you\'ll find they both are essentially the same thing.

as i\'ve understood it a wash is a glaze over the entire area. while a glaze is usually localised.

glazes are used a lot to shade areas while highlighting is used on raised areas.

 

[Ritual]

Originally posted by Trevor
As I understood it, glazes were more watered down than washes. (as well as what ritual said).

GW sold pre-made glazes (I don\'t know if they still do), and they were probably a bit different than inks or pre-made washes to justify them being different products. But you can glaze with just thinned paint or ink. No need to buy any special products.

 

[Orb]

if you look at the Oxford dictionary definition of glaze;
a thin topcoat of transparent paint used to modify the tone of an underlying colour
and then wash
a thin coating of paint or metal

then, they seem pretty much the same.

The wash, to me, is done in the context of minis as a more loaded brush than a glaze, because with a wash you\'re hoping to use the paints viscous properties to flow into recesses etc - a pin wash for example can be used to flood paint onto or around details.
The glaze is more like a controlled wash, where the layer of paint here will be pretty much constant in application, ie less paint.........

ohhh we could go on and on

 

[Lastman]

Question for Orb

Question for Orb

Sorry this is not in a PM but the \"u2u\" doesn\'t seem to work with my browser.

In \"Can You Dig it?\" --a song by Pop Will Eat Itself-- there\'s a line: \"Alan Moore knows the score.\" Who is he please? I assumed it was an author or tv personality from England.

 

[Dragonsreach]

Originally posted by Lastman
Question for Orb

Sorry this is not in a PM but the \"u2u\" doesn\'t seem to work with my browser.

In \"Can You Dig it?\" --a song by Pop Will Eat Itself-- there\'s a line: \"Alan Moore knows the score.\" Who is he please? I assumed it was an author or tv personality from England.

Alan Moore is the Author of the Graphic Novels V for Vendetta, The Watchmen and a number of others.
A very talented man.

 

[Orb]

Alan Moore is a comic writer, who has written some of the most famous modern graphic novels - V for Vendetta, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, the Watchmen are some examples of his work you may have heard of. He also used to write for 2000AD
Much of his stuff is being made into films, although Alan refuses to have anything to do with them!!

He also lives in a Terraced house in Northampton, about 20 miles from me, and a few years ago I saw his \"band\" play - with his wife and girlfriend!!

A real character:

edit; Mike beat me!!!!