Washes; besides Future

[Arma]

Quick question, living in Japan getting Future / Klear is pretty much impossible.

Though I did find a similar floor cleaning product by Johnson and Johnson but had different ingredients and, as stated on the bottle, was also for wax floors - I heard this was bad. It\'s also no clear but instead, a kind of milky white.

So, on to my main question, in order to make a good quality wash that sits in the recesses, what kind of things can I add to my paint?

Some of the things I\'ve seen around (books, the net, etc)

* PVA Glue
* Gloss Varnish
* Rubbing alcohol (not sure what this is)
* Washing up liquid (I read this could be used in washes though I thought it was generally for glazing)

Any definitive answers for which is better and why? I\'m trying to get a table top army together quickly since Japan is jumping on the table top wagon pretty fast!

Thanks.

 

[generulpoleaxe]

many painters just use water.

more and more i am stopping using glaze medium (vgc) as an additive.

don\'t put as much on at once and you will avoid any tide marks that can be left after it dries.

 

[Thecadian]

i use water though i may try futur/klear

is it a big diferance??

james

 

[Ritual]

Water is really all you need for this! No matter what stuff you put into your paint you need to learn the technique. There\'s no magic stuff that you can add to your paint that makes the washes automatically look the way you want them to. Water and technique - that\'s what you need.

 

[Arma]

cool, until now I\'ve used only water and sometimes some flow enhancer when using a small brush and painting details..

guess I\'ll just practice!

 

[Modderrhu]

Johnson\'s Wipe and Shine, according to >>The Complete Future<< The equivalent stuff I use is kinda milky and slightly yellow in the bottle, but quite clear enough in small quantities and thin layers. I think the milkiness is due to the ammonia in it.

PVA glue increases the surface tension of the paint, making the paint pull towards itself. Once paint is in a crevice, it will pull more into the crevice, but the tendency to wet the surface you are painting is reduced.

Dishwashing liquid decreases the surface tension. This means the paint flows more easily and evenly over the surfaces, with improved wetting and less \'pulling\'. This is handy for getting paint into crevices.

Future somehow gives the best of both, increased wetting, and increased \'pulling\'. In my experience, it\'s the fastest way to paint a skeleton, despite what the strong-arm water brigade say.

 

[james sequeira]

just add water

 

[Orb]

I add nothing but water to my single malt, and nothing but water to my paints :beer:

I have some Johnson\'s Klear but thats for spraying on vehicles as a varnish.............

 

[Arma]

Originally posted by Modderrhu
Johnson\'s Wipe and Shine, according to >>The Complete Future<< The equivalent stuff I use is kinda milky and slightly yellow in the bottle, but quite clear enough in small quantities and thin layers. I think the milkiness is due to the ammonia in it.

PVA glue increases the surface tension of the paint, making the paint pull towards itself. Once paint is in a crevice, it will pull more into the crevice, but the tendency to wet the surface you are painting is reduced.

Dishwashing liquid decreases the surface tension. This means the paint flows more easily and evenly over the surfaces, with improved wetting and less \'pulling\'. This is handy for getting paint into crevices.

Future somehow gives the best of both, increased wetting, and increased \'pulling\'. In my experience, it\'s the fastest way to paint a skeleton, despite what the strong-arm water brigade say.

Great explanation, thank you. I\'m gonna take the water route still since it\'s all I\'ve used up to now no point changing.