Question - I\'ve got this Land Raider that I\'m really happy with have done in a very clean paint scheme but I\'ve changed my mind and decided to do it to the next level. I want to add mud to it, along the lower treads and lower part of the tank. I think painting it brown would be a little cheesy so I\'m wondering, does anyone have a method for maybe using flock or something to make a cool mud effect?
Weathering Tanks
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weathering thoughts
Mud: how think and how messy?
My weathering kit for vehicles includes weathering powders (available from Micro Mark), an eyeshadow sponge to apply it with, and my own concoction of inks and chalk pastels applied with a toothbrush or rough chisel brush
What I use and how I apply it depends on how wet I want the mud to look and how messy i want it to get. Dry mud/dust/general grime/rust is accomplished well with simple weathering powders. Load up your small round make-up sponge on a stick with the desired color and carefully blot it onto the areas you want weathered. I typically start with a darker powder and work up to a lighter one, sealing each successive layer with a light dusting of spray matte coat.
For thick fresh grime I make myself a simple potion from artists inks and crushed cheapo craft store chalk pastels. I pick a base tone ink like sepia or chestnut for rust and add grind up two colors of pastel to add for thickness, grit, and color. My favorite rust concoction is sepia ink with equal parts orange and black pastel mixed to the consistency of runny outmeal. Different thicknesses yeild differnt results. The thicker the mix, the chunkier yer mud. Then I load up a small stiff bristle toothbrush and riffle my thumbnail across it. This produces a nicely random spray of glop that yields realistic mud results for me. Again you start with a darker mix than desired and when dry you can highlight it with regular painting techniques in more precise colors. Or you can flick successive layers of lighter pastel/ink mix to build up a hefty layer of crust. Remember that wet mud is darker than dry mud and you will have both kinds of mud on your tank, typically more dry mud the higher up on the vehicle you go.
When done with the crusty splash I still apply a simple light weathering powder coat to the upper dried mud levels to make the transitions between clean and dirty vehicle a bit softer.
Hope that helps somewhat.
--number9
Mud: how think and how messy?
My weathering kit for vehicles includes weathering powders (available from Micro Mark), an eyeshadow sponge to apply it with, and my own concoction of inks and chalk pastels applied with a toothbrush or rough chisel brush
What I use and how I apply it depends on how wet I want the mud to look and how messy i want it to get. Dry mud/dust/general grime/rust is accomplished well with simple weathering powders. Load up your small round make-up sponge on a stick with the desired color and carefully blot it onto the areas you want weathered. I typically start with a darker powder and work up to a lighter one, sealing each successive layer with a light dusting of spray matte coat.
For thick fresh grime I make myself a simple potion from artists inks and crushed cheapo craft store chalk pastels. I pick a base tone ink like sepia or chestnut for rust and add grind up two colors of pastel to add for thickness, grit, and color. My favorite rust concoction is sepia ink with equal parts orange and black pastel mixed to the consistency of runny outmeal. Different thicknesses yeild differnt results. The thicker the mix, the chunkier yer mud. Then I load up a small stiff bristle toothbrush and riffle my thumbnail across it. This produces a nicely random spray of glop that yields realistic mud results for me. Again you start with a darker mix than desired and when dry you can highlight it with regular painting techniques in more precise colors. Or you can flick successive layers of lighter pastel/ink mix to build up a hefty layer of crust. Remember that wet mud is darker than dry mud and you will have both kinds of mud on your tank, typically more dry mud the higher up on the vehicle you go.
When done with the crusty splash I still apply a simple light weathering powder coat to the upper dried mud levels to make the transitions between clean and dirty vehicle a bit softer.
Hope that helps somewhat.
--number9
Addendum
Just a precautionary note:
Always test these techniques out on plain paper to get a sense of how they work. Riffling a toothbrush doesn\'t amount to fine control of paint splatter and I\'ve created more work for myself by \"oversplattering\" some vehicles when i was getting the hang of applying the \"mud\". Terrain is also a good test bed for weathing techniques. So yes, while these suggestions work for me, it pays to be patient, flexible, experimental, and cautious when preparing to weather a lovely and fully painted tank.
Just a precautionary note:
Always test these techniques out on plain paper to get a sense of how they work. Riffling a toothbrush doesn\'t amount to fine control of paint splatter and I\'ve created more work for myself by \"oversplattering\" some vehicles when i was getting the hang of applying the \"mud\". Terrain is also a good test bed for weathing techniques. So yes, while these suggestions work for me, it pays to be patient, flexible, experimental, and cautious when preparing to weather a lovely and fully painted tank.
Thank you very much for your fine suggestions... I\'m really apprehensive to do anything to this Raider because it\'s my best tank to date... but if I don\'t take a chance on it, I\'ll never get any better will I?
I might get a Rhino done up in the same scheme and ruin it first
Thanks again!!
I might get a Rhino done up in the same scheme and ruin it first
Thanks again!!
nadinbrzezinski
New member
weathering
I personally use dry brushing and very watered down browns to give that dirty look... it works, but again you need to practice so the Rhino idea is not a bad idea.
nadin
I personally use dry brushing and very watered down browns to give that dirty look... it works, but again you need to practice so the Rhino idea is not a bad idea.
nadin
Weathering your tanks...
I use a selection of Tamaiya paints, Citadel colors (drybrushed on), and this wonderfu llittle six color set by a company called Gunze Sangyo (Weathering Color Set) in addition to chalk pastels. You might also try looking on some of the historical (WW2) forums for tips and how-to guides.
I use a selection of Tamaiya paints, Citadel colors (drybrushed on), and this wonderfu llittle six color set by a company called Gunze Sangyo (Weathering Color Set) in addition to chalk pastels. You might also try looking on some of the historical (WW2) forums for tips and how-to guides.
Sand Rat
New member
Another suggestion for some information on how to weather the vehicles is to see if you can find a copy of Shepard Pain\'s (?) book on how to build military models. There are some very good instructions on various techniques of weathering and mudding the vehicles up, using some fairly basic techniques and common items.
airbrush is what u need
Speaking of tanks, i think the best way to achieve weathering is to use an airbrush, and applying pre or post shading...go to hyperscale.com for the different techniques. THEN u can use different layers ofwash and drybrush. It\'s all about technique and experience.
CU
Cognedur
Speaking of tanks, i think the best way to achieve weathering is to use an airbrush, and applying pre or post shading...go to hyperscale.com for the different techniques. THEN u can use different layers ofwash and drybrush. It\'s all about technique and experience.
CU
Cognedur
Mr.S.Marbo
New member
Some good advice regarding weathering tanks. Number9 mentioned that you can get weathering powders such as those produced by Micro Mark. My question is this: If you live in the UK where can you find these kits and who sells them?? Thanks.
wightzombie
New member
experimentations.....
when i 1st wanted to weather and riddle with bullets my dreadnaught i had the same feelings you did. what i ended up doing is going to luckys (standard super market grocer) and bought a cheap plastic army tank for $1.50 in the little kids toy section they always have. took it home, quick primer, quick base coat color, some fast shading, then i went to my firends and played with a saudering iron making bullet holes and knicks in it. i also got to work on some good paint schemes getting the colors just right for dirt and fading dirt up the sides of the tank. i didnt play with any flock or thicker substance to make real dirt, but it came out pretty nice anyway. im almost done with the dreadnaught now and it has great weathered feet and some nice bullet impacts and other weapopn knicks. and i decided to keep the tank for now because in the end it didnt look too shabby!
when i 1st wanted to weather and riddle with bullets my dreadnaught i had the same feelings you did. what i ended up doing is going to luckys (standard super market grocer) and bought a cheap plastic army tank for $1.50 in the little kids toy section they always have. took it home, quick primer, quick base coat color, some fast shading, then i went to my firends and played with a saudering iron making bullet holes and knicks in it. i also got to work on some good paint schemes getting the colors just right for dirt and fading dirt up the sides of the tank. i didnt play with any flock or thicker substance to make real dirt, but it came out pretty nice anyway. im almost done with the dreadnaught now and it has great weathered feet and some nice bullet impacts and other weapopn knicks. and i decided to keep the tank for now because in the end it didnt look too shabby!
wightzombie
New member
hmmmm......
errrr these arent in the Uk but they might help anyone else interested in basing and enviormental materials
http://www.histomin.com/wpsuply/pgsuplyhud.htm
for this one go to the bottom of the page and work your way up.
http://www.wargamescenics.com/diorama.html
for the UK mr.s.marbo id try any local on internet base dealers who dont deal in rpg minis per say but rather historical tanks planes figurines etc and also a great place to find tons of flocks and what not are model train stores.
errrr these arent in the Uk but they might help anyone else interested in basing and enviormental materials
http://www.histomin.com/wpsuply/pgsuplyhud.htm
for this one go to the bottom of the page and work your way up.
http://www.wargamescenics.com/diorama.html
for the UK mr.s.marbo id try any local on internet base dealers who dont deal in rpg minis per say but rather historical tanks planes figurines etc and also a great place to find tons of flocks and what not are model train stores.
