WH40K vs. Star Wars

[silverandblackattack]

Star Wars wins but...

Star Wars is cool. The Death Star alone could eliminate 40K, and Lord Vader could just think them all dead. But Galactus from the Marvel Universe could come by and have a light snack.lol

 

[gowestover]

I personally think that a fight between Superman and Mighty Mouse, Mightymouse would win!

 

[wightzombie]

abbadons planet killer could smoke the death star like a bad taquito. sure the death star may have size but it doesnt have the powers of chaos nor the manueverability nor the millinia of expertise war engineers who have made thier way through the warp. the death star coupled with \"tie fighters\" as its defense its days are numbered. hell the eldar could probably wreak hell with thier insane fighter jets vs tie.

look sir, the death star is being protected by a shield generator on a nieghboring moon, should we go down and blow it up? yes abadon replies, yu go down personally in a shuttle and lead a team of your closest men. (officer obeys) sir we have landed, should we engage? no hold position and turn on homing beacon, we are sending reinforcements says abadon. load planet shatterer says abadon, fire. bye moon, shield and incompetent warriors. enagage full ahead, it will take half a day for the death star to turn around to fire at us, let us have tea and crumpets while we enagage our doom on you!

although, yes a dark forces trooper could kick a standard marines butt in battle. a dark forces trooper is actually dead on similar cept he has a jump pack and at least veteran status.

also the crimson gaurd could proabably wipe any imperial forces out but may have trouble with marine armor.

jedi and sith are both very good and could really wreak hell with most marines but when you throw in champions or characters i think the marines come out on top in the very end.

not to mention employing the deadliest mouther in the universe that which would give boba fett the willies, the eversor or any of his like minded buddies. specially the psycic assassin. he would really shut down sith and jedi.

starwars is generally still strong but they all arent geared for all out WAR like 40k is.

im going now...... i have passed my nerdometer for the day.....

 

[PStafAllen]

Originally posted by languin
Hell in 100 years we\'ll have stuff that would make 40k look primitive.

Dark... Age... Of... Technology...

Everything hit the fan a ways back in the 40k universe. What they use is what they\'ve cobbled together without much understanding, hence all the \'machine god\' references and all that crap.

Ok, It\'s not like it\'s important. Sorry.
P.

 

[GraveRobber]

This is pretty funny, but anyway.

Star Wars or even Star Trek vs W40k ?

Hands down, no questions, W40k owns all and leave them in the dust.

Aside from all the good points Chronique showed.

Aside the fact they all exist in different universes.

40k is so much more stronger in size alone, let us not forget the warp, how space is much much more different than that of the two other sci fi universes.

I do not see Daemons or Chaos in Star Trek or SW, they would have no way to counter them, there is no Inquisition or Grey Knights ( who would kick the wimpy arses of a jedi or sith all the way to the eye of terror on a bad day ).

Keep in mind that SW is for kids, at least more so than any other sci fi universe.

Its also very black and white for who is good and bad. The rebels would be cowering little puppies if they were warped to the 41st M.

They would be suffering at the thought of the god of mankind devouring souls daily, they would also be shot as heretics or crucified ( this would make them pee their pants alone ).

The psykers in 40k are 1000 times more dangerous and powerful than any jedi.

In fact so much, one alpha or delta level ( whatever they call them in 40k ) pysker in the Eisenhorn Trilogy was able to almost destroy a whole planet, he even forced the hero to shoot a space marine through the head with his own gun, this pysker was actualy around the age of a 10 year old child !

The Empire or Federation does not need to worry about the dangers of warpspace, they just need to worry about other aliens not liking their hippie loving ways and trying to blow up the enterprise lol.

The Federations does not need to worry about beeming people places while possibly being lost and DEAD in space from teleporters, anyone stuck in 40k would ! including some captain who talks funny.

Keep in mind, star trek and Star wars are pretty biased on who will always win.

40k is a game of chance if considering history is written by the players and even by the studeo, both others are based on a script.

The Imperium or Chaos or any other Race could win considering they are fairly balanced in alot of way.

The blunt shock of how brutal 40k is and how uncertain things are would kill any federation soldier or Imperial soldier in a flash.

Again, hands down, 40k wins over and over again.


Oh yea, I almost forgot, CHURUBAEL, this Daemonhost, was so powerful, Gregor asked him to \"KILL IT\" a CHAOS TITAN !!!

Within a few seconds the daemonhost blew it to nothing.

How exactly would the federation or Empire deal with such a single uber threat ? I have my doubts even a jedi would be able to do much, in fact it would probably take at least 10 Grey Knights in Termy Armor and a Captain to actualy win, Daemonhosts are actualy that strong.

 

[wightzombie]

even though the 40k world would kick star treks ass all over the place thier are certain counter measures that would bite deep into 40k. 1stly the klingons would rape the orcs of 40k as they are heavily trained in killing and fighting, genetically the same strength, and arent as \"duh\" stupid.

not to mention the vulcans and romulans etc have various psychic and deceptive abilities. for any daemon host, pickard would simply ask Q to ban the daemon hosts ass to another dimension so he could make babies with asteroids and in return Q may be captain for a month with pickard following on knees with a giant spiked collar. or they could just hhit a planet with the genesis torpedo and watch the world evolve into ash.

also the federation has certain psychic programs and assassin programs in its utmost secret groups that only certain admirals are aware of.

while i still think 40k would win because they are \'ard muthers\" thier is a bit of depth to star trek that could easily deal with magic and daemons or else you have forgotten alot of the powerfull beings they enoucntered from the original series and so on. two guys, half white, half black each, (shudders)......

of course i still think once my chaos terminators get telepported to any ship its ass is mine! a ship full of filthy \'nids didnt stop me and a ship full of filthy \'umans wont either.

unless a farangee sells them romulan hookers......

 

[Flashman14]

Isn\'t it ironic that our own course on Earth could potentially even destroy a universe like the 40k . . .

Nanotechnology - miscroscopic robots that could be charged with reproducing and breaking down cellular matter . . . oofah!

I read a great article in Skeptic magazine about nano and Sci Fi - about 4-5 issues back. The potential of that technology abused is infinitely more frightening then aiming things at folks . . .

sorry about being so cryptic - I\'m dead tired - those of you in the know can elaborate . . I\'ll spill more tomorrow if this thread is still alive . . .

 

[wightzombie]

dood any of the new technologies could go bitchcakes on us if used the right way, specially in the area of genetics, eh NSA? and of course, dont matter what its made for, if it can be used to further profit and standing then it will.

 

[syco-pyro]

Originally posted by ZaPhOd
Lets not forget too, that Darth Maul LOST! BTW, Kirk would still give him a run.

Ok if anyone read the darth maul book they would know that if the author had not had a grudge on the sith then darth maul would be able to invisably walk up to the emporor of mankind and chop his friggen head off. the author shows how darth maul can kill... four killer droids in two seconds and later has one cruddy jedi trainee almost kill him! AND in the book he cant kill one lousy guy untill darth sideous sets the guy up in a hotel with a free sith lord waiting on his pillow! DARTH MAUL COULD HAVE WALKED INTO THE JEDI TEMPLE AND KILLED EVERYSINGLE ONE OF THEM!!!!:flame: im done......

 

[SaintRigger]

Originally posted by ZaPhOd
Maybe it is just me, but Starship Troopers could very well have been the first 40K movie. Which is also funny, because they have the tech to travel FTL or at least blow the laws of Physics out of the water with their ships, but they still use projectile weapons that look amazingly like AR15s.... And how about that restistance to radiation that humans seem to have developed...

And a severe lack of squad support weapons. With a massed rush like that, it\'s amazing what a few machine guns, flame throwers or artillery with flachette type rounds could have done.. but then.. it\'s a movie, and wholesale slaughter of a few gruns mowing down bugs doesn\'t translate well into on-screen excitement.

In the book, they were basically drop troops that bounced around in power armor nuking everything as they went...

 

[SaintRigger]

Originally posted by pitynoman
Duh,...
I forgot Bladerunner.A little off topic \"The Blood of Heroes\" with Rutger Houer - Bloodbowl.

HAHAH! Sweet! I didn\'t think anyone else saw this movie. I *loved* it.

 

[Ebonbuddha]

I saw it too. That such a cool movie.

But then again, it is Rutger Houer.]:bouncy:

Originally posted by SaintRigger

Originally posted by pitynoman
Duh,...
I forgot Bladerunner.A little off topic \"The Blood of Heroes\" with Rutger Houer - Bloodbowl.

HAHAH! Sweet! I didn\'t think anyone else saw this movie. I *loved* it.

 

[Ebonbuddha]

The comparision between 40K and Dune

i always associated Warhammer 40,000 with Dune. The dark religious overtones. The Mysticism. There is an Emperor in both. I see the Space Marines as the Sardukar.

I have a kind of funny story about wen I lived in the US. Some friends and I went out to dinner and we had to wait for our names to be announced to get our table. When the hostess asked under what name I should be called I said with the straightest face possible, \"Muad\'Dib.\" When our table became available the hostess sas over the loud speaker, \"Muad\'Dib table for 5 ready.\" My friends just looked at me and said, \"I can\'t believe you did that.\" lollollollol

Ebonbuddha

Originally posted by Chrispy
It was bound to happen eventually.. A topic on Star Wars.. Now, I can here you groaning that Star Wars was out before 40K and thus the space marines look like that but I\'m just calling up the paralells.

For examle, power weapons are obviously Light sabers, but in 40k they can be shaped into knives, scimitars and axes. Inquisitors also mimic jedi in some respects. There\'s also an Emperor in both, but one\'s out of it and the other is evil.

If the galaxies were to fight, I beileve 40k would win.. Why? Exterminatus, psyk-out grenades, and space marines.. Has anyone else notice that white armor of strom troopers does didly in the movies? And a gainst laser weapons too! Sheesh..

There\'s also parallels to Frank Herbert\'s Dune.. Both Luke and Paul were brought up on desert planets, both of their parents defied tradition and were of noble blood. Again, there\'s an emperor. And again, I beileve a Fremen or at least a Sardukar could be more thatn a match for stormtroopers, gungans and the like.

I\'m not saying one is better (where\'s the 40k movies?) , I\'m looking at it tactically. I mean, all we can come up with in star wars in laser weapons? Give me a plasma weapon anyday, despite the big boom of overloading..

Lemme know what you think!

 

[TW_JaM]

Originally posted by Ebonbuddha

But then again, it is Rutger Houer.]:bouncy:

Originally posted by SaintRigger

Originally posted by pitynoman
Duh,...
I forgot Bladerunner.A little off topic \"The Blood of Heroes\" with Rutger Houer - Bloodbowl.

HAHAH! Sweet! I didn\'t think anyone else saw this movie. I *loved* it.

I thought the movie was called \"Salute of the Jugger\" or something ? with Rutger HAUER.