What color (again)

tootskater

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What color do you painting gods recommend for an african american skin tone? I was wanting to paint a mini but i couldn\'t figure out a good base color or highlight or anything I need the tone for a dark and light skin kinda guy
 
well seeing as how skin tonse ranges various colors reguarless of race you have any options. You could go the Hally Berry route and uded GW\'s tanned flesh, or you could go the Samual L. Jackson Route and use Scorched brown with a drybrush of Dark Flesh. Then there is the Chris Tucker rout and used Tanned Flesh over Dark Flesh. fainnly you gould use the Tu Pac route and used Bleached Bone overRotting Flesh.
And if i have not gotted banned yet you could do the Michale Jackson Route and use plaid flesh over Bronzed Flesh.
 

DennisMech

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You know, you can say \"African\", or whatever else is accepted, just because someone has that skintone, does not make them American. Ah well, we\'re all trained to say that here in America, I always thought it was a silly name, I mean, you might as well call white americans British americans, but then not everyone\'s from there originaly anyway...

Oh well, if you think about it, if everyone keeps making babies, it\'s all gonna mix in the the end, and we\'ll just have \"beige\" people.

Oops, I think I just turned this into a repeat of the last thread :D
 

Trevor

Brushlicker and Freak!
Actually, it\'ll be more brownish, dark skin colour is dominant over light.

\"use the Tu Pac route and used Bleached Bone overRotting Flesh\"

That is funny, bad taste, but funny.
 

Aryanun

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Here\'s my recipie and a BAD scan that shows the skin tone.

All Reaper Paints: and this mix was developed by Anne Foerster.

50/50 mix of Walnut and Aged Red Brick with a hint of Oiled Leather.

Lighten mix with Oiled Leather and Hawkwood, eventually phasing out Oiled Leather completely. Final Highlights in Hawkwood alone.

Add or remove Aged Red Brick for redder or less red coloring and add or remove oiled leather for lighter or darker tones.

Walnut for deep shading.

Bad scan of Topless mini

I\'ve been trying to get a decent picture of her, but she not only resisted my attempts of completion (by falling off the deck and breaking while I was sealing her) but she also refuses to take decent pictures no matter what settings or camera I use (scan, digital, or film). I was very pleased in the way the skin came out, so got the scan to at least show Anne I did learn something from her lessons. :D
 

Chrispy

Active member
Okay, do you want African or African American? They are slightly different, you know.. For example, here is a Masai tribesman:


kn-masai-tn.jpg


Now compare how light Washington or Berry are to him:


berry_washington.jpg


In history class, we just finished up the \"Narratives of a Slave\" by Fredrick Douglas and Harriet Jacobs and both expounded on the hypocracy they were most likely the children of their white master but they were treated totally different. Now, I\'m not saying ALL African Americans have mixed ancestry, but it seems more common here in the states for that reason.

Wait two more weeks for the Ethnic skin article, people! :p
 
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PF

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Another weird theory...In fact people in Africa don\'t have all the same color I think...Some can be darker some lighter...
 

dauber22

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Originally posted by PF
Another weird theory...In fact people in Africa don\'t have all the same color I think...Some can be darker some lighter...

The whole concept of trying to define a skintone for a continent is a bit of a stretch. Is there a European skintone? ie - Do Finns and Sicillians have the same skin tones? Or Asians - Iranians, Indians and Siberians?

I think the only continent you could get away with it on is Antarctica.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Dauber:
The whole concept of trying to define a skintone for a continent is a bit of a stretch. Is there a European skintone? ie - Do Finns and Sicillians have the same skin tones? Or Asians - Iranians, Indians and Siberians?

I think the only continent you could get away with it on is Antarctica.
Wow great question. In a nutshell -- No!
Due to the originating people\'s who have colonised, invaded or otherwise just wandered in the \"British Isles\" we have as much a diversity of Caucasian skintones as you could shake a stick at.
My skintone is middle of the road. (Think thinned Dwarf Flesh mixed with Elf Flesh, with shadows of Tanned & Dwarf Flesh colours) I\'ve got a mix of North Eastern English and Welsh roots (plus others no doubt) in my family and my family name arrives in this country during the Norman Conquest.
My wife\'s colouration is pale & occasionally freckled, goes lobster red in sun (She\'s a pale readhead!)
One of my colleagues is a Blonde girl with very pale skin and another a typical Scandinavian with warmer colour skintones and Natural blonde streaks.
I\'ve worked with and or known people with strong dark skintones, one of whom has Spanish origins, which are generally refered to as Olive-toned.
Add into the issue is that most of us spend an inordinate amount of time indoors under artifical light and that affects skin tone as well. (I\'m not even going to think about those people who use sunbeds.) :p Age also plays a great deal of influence to the skin colour as wrinkles and creases deepen, creating stronger shade areas and paler highlights.
So there\'s grist to the mill on skin tones.
Doesn\'t help but doesn\'t hinder either.:)
 

vincegamer

Active member
Originally posted by DennisMech
You know, you can say \"African\", or whatever else is accepted, just because someone has that skintone, does not make them American. Ah well, we\'re all trained to say that here in America, I always thought it was a silly name, I mean, you might as well call white americans British americans, but then not everyone\'s from there originaly anyway...
Well, I tend to believe evolution so humans originated in Africa, so that makes everyone in my hemisphere an African-American.

p.s. why did the USA get a monopoly on \"American\"?
 

Dragonsreach

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Staff member
Recently I watched an interview with Whoopi Goldberg, which fasinated me. She hates to be called an African-American, claiming that it\'s diluting the meaning and pride of the country in which she was born.
(I kind of agree with her point of view,as an outsider!)
 

Chrispy

Active member
Yep, I was definatly putting major countries down for ethnicities.. Like a the Spainish don\'t look like the Germans but sometimes the gene pool will deal you a wild card. One of my artist classmates was a hispanic with a bit dark skin and jet black hair, but he had blue eyes.... Anyhoo, the weird thing is Australian Aboriginies have a similar skintone to african, but they\'re sperated by hundreds of miles! In my prelimany research, I learned that skin color is defined by the Melanin in your skin, and that is dependent upon horomones (men are darker than women, even in the same family) and contact with light (both Africa and Australia have extreme contact with the sun).
 

Aryanun

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I\'ve known Hispanics and Spaniards who had brown, light brown, or blonde hair and blue or green eyes, and they didn\'t have relatives who were of Germanic or European descent, either.

I\'m 1/2 Polish, and have pale skin, brown hair and brown eyes, but I live in Texas, so my hair is streaked with lighter brown and blonde, but my skin is still paler than my fiance\'s (who is from Michigan and has Lithuanian and Canadian Indian descent in his bloodline).

The Egyptians had varying skin tones. Some of the artifacts attest to this either in the coloring used or in the facial characteristics. Nefertiti, apparently, had a light coloring, as did Cleopatra, yet Hatshepsut and her brother Tutmosis III had facial characteristics that would lend themselves towards a darker skin tone (this is something else that always has to be considered as well).

There are even some Asiatic countries, such as Thailand, who share many characteristics with the African, being the broad, flat noses, dark skin tones, and larger lips.

Doing a single article on the wide variety of ethnic skin tones would be impossible. My suggestion is to merely say \"Oriental, \"Caucasion, and \"African\" and allow people the liberty to adjust the base colors according to their preference. :D
 

finn17

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I think we need another category...

African, Caucasian, Oriental and Nerdistani. The Nerdistani skintone is typically found amongst computer geeks, mini painters, Star Trek fans, Wargamers etc. This skintone is characterised by an extremely pale, almost translucent effect caused by lack of exposure to daylight.

Occasionally the skin will have an unhealthy sheen and possibly some minor erruptions bought about by the fact that the average Nerdistani\'s diet is limited to food that can be eaten (and possibly prepared) using only one hand.

The best method of rendering this skintone is to treat the mini simply as one of the undead, as the look is extremely similar:D

My name is finn17 and I am a Nerdlol
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Do I get to use this twice in one day?

Originally posted by finn17
...Occasionally the skin will have an unhealthy sheen...


The Sheens

Martin
Charlie
Pearlescent
Unhealthy
and
Emilio Estefez

I am really sick of Hollywood nepotism!!!lollollol
 

Sand Rat

New member
Originally posted by Chrispy
Yep, I was definatly putting major countries down for ethnicities.. Like a the Spainish don\'t look like the Germans but sometimes the gene pool will deal you a wild card. One of my artist classmates was a hispanic with a bit dark skin and jet black hair, but he had blue eyes.... Anyhoo, the weird thing is Australian Aboriginies have a similar skintone to african, but they\'re sperated by hundreds of miles! In my prelimany research, I learned that skin color is defined by the Melanin in your skin, and that is dependent upon horomones (men are darker than women, even in the same family) and contact with light (both Africa and Australia have extreme contact with the sun).

From ye olde anthropological point of view - Your skin coloration is related to where your anscestors spent most of their time - in areas where they would spend a great deal of time exposed to strong sunlight (ie Sub Saharan Africa and Australia for example) they developed a dark skin tone for protection from harmful UV radiation, while walking a fine balance for the production of Vitamin D from ingested minerals and sunlight. As we moved north out of Africa and into Europe, those folks with the lightest skintones adapted best and had more kids, so the human beasts in that area got pale skins. Thats all there be to it folks - Protection from the flaming gas ball in the sky.

As to nose shape and other things, well, thats another article and rant entirely. lol But it is also an adaptation to local envronmental conditions, just like almost everything else about our bodies.
 

dauber22

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Still to broad of a category...

Surely you\'re not implying that all Nerdestanies look alike ???:)

Why, one could never mistake a Dork for a Geek lol:flip:lol
 

finn17

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Originally posted by dauber22
Surely you\'re not implying that all Nerdestanies look alike ???:)

Why, one could never mistake a Dork for a Geek lol:flip:lol
...or an anorak...?
 
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