what is everyones favorite star trek series

Amazon warrior

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TNG and DS9 are on a pretty even footing for me. TNG could be quite scary when it wanted to, and I enjoyed the intrigues and tensions of DS9. Odo was my favourite character, I think.

I liked Voyage less- I still watched it (although I haven\'t seen the end), but it annoyed me for some reason. Possibly a Neelix-shaped reason...

I haven\'t really watched enough of the original series to make an informed judgement, but the one thing that stood out was Kirk\'s habit of getting his leg over with the nearest pointy-bra\'ed female alien ALL THE TIME! When they said to him, \"You\'ll go places that no man has been before\", he apparently interpreted it as, \"You\'ll end up in the pants of hot alien chicks a lot.\" Maybe I just caught the wrong episodes! lol

I haven\'t watched any Enterprise, so no comment there.

I really want to watch B5. It\'s been given legendary status in my mind by several people, and I never got to watch it at the time because it was on channel 4 at awkward times, which meant I only caught about two episodes (I didn\'t have a TV in my bedroom until I was about 18).
 

Dragonsreach

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Originally posted by Amazon warrior

I haven\'t really watched enough of the original series to make an informed judgement, but the one thing that stood out was Kirk\'s habit of getting his leg over with the nearest pointy-bra\'ed female alien ALL THE TIME! When they said to him, \"You\'ll go places that no man has been before\", he apparently interpreted it as, \"You\'ll end up in the pants of hot alien chicks a lot.\" Maybe I just caught the wrong episodes! lol
Nope you obviously caught ALL the episodes.
 

Einion

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DS9 fans...

Didn\'t the melodrama, inconsistencies & plot conveniences (shapeshifters x20!) and *gack*the Bashir issue*gack* bother you?

Einion
 

demonherald

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TNG is the one I\'m most familiar with so I guess that goes as my favourite although Voyager did have Jeri ryan.......:bouncy:
 

Necroghast

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Originally posted by Einion
Didn\'t the melodrama, inconsistencies & plot conveniences (shapeshifters x20!) and *gack*the Bashir issue*gack* bother you?

Einion


yeah thats why i put voyager and tng ahead of it. plus at least at the beggining, the guy who played sisco was a terrible actor. i think tng at the end and some of voyager had the best acting.
 

Wren

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Originally posted by Einion
Didn\'t the melodrama, inconsistencies & plot conveniences (shapeshifters x20!) and *gack*the Bashir issue*gack* bother you?

I admittedly didn\'t watch the final year or two consistently, as the war thing was a big enough story arc that I didn\'t want to just watch episodically, although I did see an episode here and there. So if that\'s where most of the stuff you\'re talking about comes from, I can\'t comment.

It was a double-edged sword for DS9 on that front, as part of what I really liked about it was that there was a story and character development. It was much less episodic than TOS or most of TNG, where you can watch an episode from any season know everyone\'s character will pretty much stay the same and any romances/friendships/anything else with guest stars will be resolved into not existing by the end of the episode.

My teenage years were reruns of TOS. TNG started when I was in college, but I only watched an episode now and then when I\'d visit my mom, I was far more into partying and watching movies on the pay TV we scammed the cable guy into first year of college.

(Now if we\'re going to bring up B5, that\'s going to eclipse my feelings for any ST. It\'s a novel for television and a miracle it got made even at the time, it could never happen now in the days of networks axing everything after a handful of shows.)
 

Roger Bunting

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I wholeheartedly agree about B5, Wren. In fact it almost did get cancelled at the end of season 4, which is why the storylines were pretty much resolved. Then they got the go-ahead for a 5th season so they had to try and get the momentum going again.

As for ST, hmm, possibly TNG was the best, when it wasn\'t being overly preachy.
 

Necroghast

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Originally posted by Theomar Pius



Do I get my nerd wings now?


Me:
can i get some too? im talking about star trek on coolminiornot while playing nethack (dont ask unless your question is \"whats your favorite character class?\" Barbarian! duh!) while listening to \"prediction of warfare\" by Amon Amarth (heading to the emerald land a fleet of fifty ships...an army of two thousand men...lead by the king)

im also wearing a bugmans shirt
 

Theomar Pius

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Originally posted by Einion
Didn\'t the melodrama, inconsistencies & plot conveniences (shapeshifters x20!) and *gack*the Bashir issue*gack* bother you?

Einion

The shapeshifters heightened paranoia, very useful plot device in the WAR that engulfed a good half of the series. That\'s what made DS9 good. The continuation of te plot from week to week, and the fact that action had to come to them, meant the stories and characters were much more realised.

I remember that you never really learned much about Janeway through 7 seasons. You saw her deal with problems and knew she had a soft spot for the borg, but that\'s about it.
DS9 gave you full histories of every character, because the series had time to explore all of them much more since they weren\'t always zipping around the galaxy.
Even the minor quest characters like Garak, Nog, Rom, Martok, are better realized than Kim or Mayweather or Chekov.

As for Bashir, if he wasn\'t so annoying in the first seasons, his friendship with Miles throughout the series wouldn\'t have been so good. They are such an odd couple, and probably my fav of the friendships in all of the series, with Tom and Harry in second. At least they did stuff.
Kirk and Spocks friendship is based mostly on the viewers nostalgia. Enterprise wasn\'t really around long enough to figure it out.
Geordi and Data was ok, but Data seemed like so much more of a major character, there didn\'t seem to be enough room there.
 

Dr. Tachyon

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My favourite is Enterprise. It was closer in tone to the original than the other series and I thought Archer was a pretty cool leader.

TNG\'s problem was that although they had an ensemble cast of really talented actors, Patrick Stewart was just so much better. So, Picard is my fave Captain.

However, it all pales when compared to the glory that is the remade BSG (seasons 1 to most of 3).

Colonel Tigh roxxors, to use the young people\'s parlance.
 

lizcam

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Without looking at any of the replies I have to say DS9. It was a tad more life-like than the others although you still have the issue with \"no casual sex between main charecters\" that all Startrek shows have. Except maybe for Kirk. He got laid a lot. :D
 

Dragonsreach

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Originally posted by lizcam
It was a tad more life-like than the others although you still have the issue with \"no casual sex between main charecters\" that all Startrek shows have.
Oh I don\'t know.......Star Trek Enterprise came up with a beauty.


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Hoshi, the hottest of all Star Trek females for me, got \"horizontally active\" on Riza, well before anyone else did.
 

Theomar Pius

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Originally posted by Theomar Pius


I liked Enterprise second best. Most people disliked how the whole 3rd season was a to be continued, but really thats what I liked about it, the stakes were high and it was very tense. I think Capt. Archer is a jerk 98% of the time. Hoshi is adorable.
 

Yramrag

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Hoshi annoyed the hell out of me. T\'Pau was much better in the mirror universe. And if the Borg take the best parts of the races that they meet and use them, how come all the borg didn\'t have 7 of 9\'s butt?
But if i had to choose one, i would have to say TNG as i watched it more than any of the other series.
I want a Star Trek series which focuses on the non-flagship starfleet academy near drop outs.
\"Remember the Prime directive captian\"
\"Nah, we can solve this problem faster if we don\'t bother with it.\"
Happiest moment was introducing my wife to B5. When i first met her, she loved TNG. \"Best show ever\". I got her watching B5 and when we finished the last episode of season 3, she turned to me and said \"Ok. You win. Babylon 5 is a much better show than Star Trek\".
 

Sauce Devil

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I think I\'ve seen almost every episode of Star Trek (10 times over) but the plot holes and logical inconsistencies grate on my nerves.

Just one example:

Voyager v Kazon battlecrusiers.

Voyager = high tech, Kazon = low tech so it would be rather like a modern aircraft carrier versus a WW2 fleet of battleships - modern tech would wipe the floor with every WW2 ship on the face of the Earth.

But what happens? \"Shields down to 25% Captain!\"... \"15% Captain!\" (note: if the shields lost more than 50% of power they would probably be rendered useless) and they just barely scrape through the battle, destroying just one Kazon ship.

Maybe just one more - Voyager again:

Water shortages: The Kazon have spaceships but they have no water? Haven\'t they heard of ice?! There are entire Planets and Moons made of ice! Or they could MAKE water - H20 - we have the technology to do that already.
 

Necroghast

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but remember, those kazon ships were gigantic. though i did hate the whole kazon story and was happy when they got past them and seska died.
 

Dragonsreach

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Originally posted by Sauce Devil
I think I\'ve seen almost every episode of Star Trek (10 times over) but the plot holes and logical inconsistencies grate on my nerves.

Just one example:

Voyager v Kazon battlecrusiers.

Voyager = high tech, Kazon = low tech so it would be rather like a modern aircraft carrier versus a WW2 fleet of battleships - modern tech would wipe the floor with every WW2 ship on the face of the Earth.
Sorry that\'s not computing to me. Most modern Ships arn\'t constructed to the same methodolgies used in WW2. (Just ask War Griffon) Plus if you\'ve a fleet of Smaller ships the odds are stacked against a single larger ship.
Look up the Graf Spee/ Battle of the River Plate if you doubt me.


But what happens? \"Shields down to 25% Captain!\"... \"15% Captain!\" (note: if the shields lost more than 50% of power they would probably be rendered useless) and they just barely scrape through the battle, destroying just one Kazon ship.
I always thought of the sheilds as energy absorbers, therefore the \"Sheilds Down to 25%\" would mean only 25% absorbsion capacity before overload.
Having said that I couldn\'t understand why the excess energy wasn\'t rechannelled into the defensive systems.


Maybe just one more - Voyager again:

Water shortages: The Kazon have spaceships but they have no water? Haven\'t they heard of ice?! There are entire Planets and Moons made of ice! Or they could MAKE water - H20 - we have the technology to do that already.
Don\'t forget the Kazon didn\'t create those ships they were in essence a slave race that overthrew their masters and took control. Doesn\'t mean that they understood everything about the technology they were using, or how to improve or repair all of it.


Ok way too much geekdom.
 
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