What quality are Games Workshop miniatures?

painting

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They're about the only ones I've ever seen in person (the gamesworkshop ones, Lotr, Warhammer). And I've only seen a few of those. The minis on here look nice but I was wondering how GW compare to the ones on here for sale. Are they better, same, worse? If possible please tell me why so I can learn.

Thank you.
 

Byteknight

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I find that Reaper Miniatures are about 30% the price of GW, as good a quality and have 100 times more variety in figures and themes (as they are not locked into only a couple of gameworlds).


www.reapermini.com



I'm sick to death of GW and how Coolmini is swamped with their stuff.
 
I thought that first line read "in prison" for a sec and quickly checked to see if you are Chrispy.

I'd say they range from 4/10 to 10/10, though I think the quality is dipping slightly.
 

Arma

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As Jazz mentions, GW make some great minis, and some incredibly poor ones. This goes for just about any of the miniature companies out there though. Choosing minis can depend on a few factors. For example, if you play a particular game or army perhaps you'd be buying those miniatures.

If you're just in it to paint then I recommend picking and choosing from every company. You'll find you develop a taste for certain companies. As for me; for display pieces I love Rackham miniatures (the metals are hard to pick up now), reaper make some great minis depending on your prefered sculptor (Werner!), Freebooter, and many many more. Have a look through the CMON store and see what takes your fancy.
 

cleen X

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If you mean quality of the product and not the mini I would say GW has pretty good quality control. They all have mold lines and stuff but nothing too bad. The quality of the sculpt is up and down. If you like big men i armour the new Blood Angels are awesome! Probably some of the best plastics I have seen. You can pick up Space Hulk, thing you have to go to ebay now though, and even if you don't want to play it the minis are worth it alone, amazing quality!
GW also has a lot of plastic miniatures which I would say is easier and more forgiving than metal and resin.
I'd say they range from 4/10 to 10/10, though I think the quality is dipping slightly.
I agree the quality of there sculpts go up and down but I wouldn't say it's going down, if anything I think they are getting better and better. Just look at the Chaos Giant, Space Hulk minis and all the new Blood Angels stuff. Terrific stuff!
 

heavy terror

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Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! You gotta slap a buncha junk together anyway if you want it to look like no one else's. The fact is, none of nobody can tell YOU what you'll like.
 

Wyrmypops

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I've noticed a popular trend in damning GW and thier products, I figure it's a contrary thing - like slamming Microsoft or something.

Personally, I love 'em. Painted enough of them over the decades. The old stuff, so full of character, didn't have much competition so even the lower quality they were back then had them stand out positively against other ranges. The 90's where GW went into their "red period" wasn't so groovy, so many of the mini's posed the same, adorned the same, and presented in rather Fisher Price paint jobs. Other ranges started to offer decent alternatives.
These days GW are (mostly, don't look at the minotaurs) back on form. There's some quality characters, albeit harshly priced. It's their troopers I consider so well done, detailed and sporting loads of optional bits and pieces. The story around the redshit campfire went they recruited someone from Airfix, that brought a greater understanding of what could be done in that medium - could be a load of cowpoo though.
Whatever the case, the mini's are largely the best.

Still, there's more alternatives than ever. If a person is into painting for the joy of painting rather than towards a goal of using them in a game, then GW kinda price themselves out of the market. Considering their character models could be double the price of similar quality from elsewhere.
A painter can have more "oo oo I need that" moments going through the ranges in the CMON shop than the same time spend navigating the GW online store.
 

Dragonsreach

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The story around the redshit campfire went they recruited someone from Airfix, that brought a greater understanding of what could be done in that medium - could be a load of cowpoo though.
I'd heard that "tall tale" myself, but kinda think its another "urban legend".
There is a similar tale in that GW's increase in Plastic quality was due to their attempt to enter the Japanese market place and entering discussion with Japanese toy manufaturers. BUT of course these are only as you say "Campfire Stories".


Whatever the case, the mini's are largely the best. (+/-)

Still, there's more alternatives than ever. If a person is into painting for the joy of painting rather than towards a goal of using them in a game, then GW kinda price themselves out of the market. Considering their character models could be double the price of similar quality from elsewhere.
A painter can have more "oo oo I need that" moments going through the ranges in the CMON shop than the same time spend navigating the GW online store.
Ain't that the truth!
Magpie syndrome goes seriously into overdrive cruising that particular online crack store.
 
I've noticed a popular trend in damning GW and thier products, I figure it's a contrary thing - like slamming Microsoft or something.

I've noticed a popular trend in drinking beer. The men and women are out of an evening after work, or on the weekends, drinking the stuff, it's been happening for a while now.
 

evil tendencies

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If you want to know about quality, I'll start by saying that a lot of people conflate quality with preference. The subject matter, posing, decoration, etc., is not something that can be objectively assessed. You'll have to figure out what you prefer in a mini for yourself, as you're the one who pays for it, works on it, and has to look at the finished product. Manufacturing quality, on the other hand, is a pretty objective assessment, so I'll go on about that.

Generally, look for these things when determining quality:
What kind of material is it made of?
- Is it lead or mostly lead, or one of the lead-free alloys? Plastic? Resin?
- If it's metal, make sure that it isn't discolored or starting to tarnish; either of these indicates QC problems in the casting process, or possibly even in the selection of casting materials.
- If it's plastic, make sure that you can't easily score it with a fingernail. Some companies use cheap, soft plastic that won't stand up to the rigors of painting and playing.
- Resin is generally good, but remember that resin dust is toxic, and can cause cancer if you inhale too much when filing and sanding it.

Second, look for casting problems.
- Are there mold lines? If so, do you think you have the skill to shave them off past whatever details they cover?
- Sometimes the casting mold will actually mis-match the two halves, with one side higher by maybe 1/16" or so. This creates something like mold lines(someone help me with a proper name here), but it is far harder to fix; if it is severe, simply insist that the manufacturer/retailer give you a new one. This is my main problem with reaper, and is why I have stopped buying their stuff unless I can see it before I buy and know it is cast well.
- Are there sections that look pitted, like someone dropped a caustic onto it? This is called pitting, and it is caused by a lack of sufficient material or trapped air in the mold (usually). A high number of models with this defect is usually the sign of a cheap operation.
- How about flashing? A fair amount of flash is normal for many models, but it should never be hard to remove. GW is particularly bad with this, often leaving giant tabs on delicate places that need to be clipped, ground and sometimes sculpted over, or leaving small points on hard to fix places like ornate kneecaps or boots.
- While I like resin, you need to watch out for air bubbles. This is unavoidable to some extent, but you should not be essentially required to re-sculpt the figure when you file them down and fill them with putty.

Finally, I look at ease of assembly:
- How easily can you get the joins to meet properly? Are there always large gaps between body sections? Metal GW horses are terrible when it comes to this, almost always requiring a fair amount of superglue and putty to fix the gap, and then sculpting to hide the seam. You can't always avoid this problem, but with some companies it is an endemic problem.
- How sturdy are the joins? I had some old metal Rackham Gryffon duelists a whiel back, and while I loved the sculpts, they had the most terrible configuration for the components. The body came as one solid piece except for the hands holding the swords. The spot where they joined was tiny, was not socketed or any other thing else to make the join solid, was too small to stick a pin into, and was designed to be cantilevered out so that the slightest pressure on the sword would snap it off, no matter how much glue you used. Even the folks here told me in effect: you won't be able to play with them."
- What kind of base does it have? The Reaper "broccoli bases" (you'll know them if you ever see one) are simple and effective, but a total pain to remove if you want something different. Slotted bases are nice, but many companies will make the tab on the mini too big (requiring cutting and filing just to get it in the base) or too small (requiring shimming or puttying to keep it put).

I hope this helps. If you want to talk about preferences at any time, however, I'm more than up for it, as is almost everyone here. Feel free to PM me, or start a normal thread asking for opinions on certain pieces or lines.
 

freakinacage

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from a pure quality stance, i would say the plastics are ok (not half as good as historical stuff) but the metals are just about ok. if oyu want ot see how it should be done, look at studio mcvey resins and hasslefree metals
 

generulpoleaxe

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I personaly think a GW's metals are pretty good quality (not into the style any more personaly) The plastics are average compared to the other gaming plastics out now (if you want to compare vehicles then no gaming company comes close to what the 1/56 etc companies produce)
 
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