Whatever happened to Axebone?
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Let me say, I am a card-carrying Christian (ordained as a Baptist Deacon). I do not have a problem with painting minis. God gave us creative gifts and a desire to make art - that is expressed here (CMON) in the form of mini painting.
If indeed Axebone has decided to allow Christ to be his savior, I am thrilled. But I do not see a need for him to quit painting because of it. (Yes, I thought some of his conversions were over the top in the decency catagory, but I wasn\'t going to start a boycot because of it.)
I also respect a lot of the other talent here even if I am uncomfortable with their religion. (Wiccanpony comes to mind - not singling her out, just an example)
Tammy, caffene is not a reason to keep God out of your life. Trust me, I have done much worse before becoming saved.
If indeed Axebone has decided to allow Christ to be his savior, I am thrilled. But I do not see a need for him to quit painting because of it. (Yes, I thought some of his conversions were over the top in the decency catagory, but I wasn\'t going to start a boycot because of it.)
I also respect a lot of the other talent here even if I am uncomfortable with their religion. (Wiccanpony comes to mind - not singling her out, just an example)
Tammy, caffene is not a reason to keep God out of your life. Trust me, I have done much worse before becoming saved.
Grizzix
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i had some friends back in high school that went to a church retreat camp. . .thing one summer. they came back and destroyed all their tapes and CD\'s. i was pretty upset over the whole thing
i wanted most of the stuff they destroyed
but really, being \"born again\" isnt something to take lightly. for all intents and purposes they were brainwashed. within three months they were back to doing the same thing they used to and listening to the same music they used to and really didnt understand what had made them do it in the first place.???
dont get me wrong i dont have a problem with people who practice religeon. its the ones who force it onto others that i dislike. i think it should be a very personal thing rather than a fashion show or gossip session every sunday. some have faith for the right reasons and some for the wrong. i just wish it was easier to tell them apart.
i wanted most of the stuff they destroyed
but really, being \"born again\" isnt something to take lightly. for all intents and purposes they were brainwashed. within three months they were back to doing the same thing they used to and listening to the same music they used to and really didnt understand what had made them do it in the first place.???
dont get me wrong i dont have a problem with people who practice religeon. its the ones who force it onto others that i dislike. i think it should be a very personal thing rather than a fashion show or gossip session every sunday. some have faith for the right reasons and some for the wrong. i just wish it was easier to tell them apart.
It\'s a fine line between being a supportive religous community and being a domineering, controlling cult. In your friends\' case I would suggest that it was not brainwashing, but rather conversion based upon emotion with no support helping them maintain their decisions. Once that emotion faded, they quickly fell back into old habits because their conversion had no solid foundation.
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t_haye2
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nope, sorry, i just don\'t do organized religions. I dunno, in my mind, if I lead my life in the best way possible, as a good person(and face it, \'being a good person\' in western civilisation is based on the 10 commandments), if there is a god, he\'s not going to diss me for not going to church.... And if that means i\'m going to hell, well, he\'s a childish bugger then, and I don\'t care.
Meh, each to their own, I\'m not willing to disrespect anybody because of their faith, as long as they give me the same respect. The problem is with peeps that try to ram their beliefs down your throat, without even caring about your opinion, now THAT annoys me.
Meh, each to their own, I\'m not willing to disrespect anybody because of their faith, as long as they give me the same respect. The problem is with peeps that try to ram their beliefs down your throat, without even caring about your opinion, now THAT annoys me.
yeah... I am more of a personal faith kinda guy. *chuckle* I believe in a God but i dont believe in religion (which seems corrupted by mankinds greed and want for personal power/glory).
does that work? or is it lazyness?
Actually, this sort of thing starts warsin the real world, I am impressed by the way people here have handled the subject. Its a credit to you all.
-Peter
does that work? or is it lazyness?
Actually, this sort of thing starts warsin the real world, I am impressed by the way people here have handled the subject. Its a credit to you all.
-Peter
Yeah got to agree with her. (Now there\'s a first!)Originally posted by t_haye2
nope, sorry, i just don\'t do organized religions. I dunno, in my mind, if I lead my life in the best way possible, as a good person(and face it, \'being a good person\' in western civilisation is based on the 10 commandments), if there is a god, he\'s not going to diss me for not going to church.... And if that means i\'m going to hell, well, he\'s a childish bugger then, and I don\'t care.
Meh, each to their own, I\'m not willing to disrespect anybody because of their faith, as long as they give me the same respect. The problem is with peeps that try to ram their beliefs down your throat, without even caring about your opinion, now THAT annoys me.
Respect all, treat all as equal, leave me in peace. That\'s the best way!
interesting
I don’t get it. Everybody is always talking about how important it is to find yourself, in spite of what others say. “You’ve gotta know who you are!” Pop psychology spews from every corner about how a person must know thy self. But whenever a person “finds God,” and changes their life everyone says they “lose themselves.” How do we know he didn’t finally FIND himself.
Actually, most of the people on this board have wished Axebone well, and that is super, but some people seem to think that he is wrong for ditching his art.
I think it is very common for a person to completely separate himself from his past when he makes such a discovery. Some people probably take it too far, but I think everyone in that situation should take it a bit away from where he was. After all, if nothing is going to change, why bother?
My experience is that most people will pick up and separate themselves completely from the world as a defense mechanism. When you first convert to Christianity from outside the fold your friends, well wishers, acquaintances, and even your loving family will berate you and tell you that you aren’t good enough to change. Nay sayers abound. You have to retreat for a while to discover what you can consider safe and what you should consider dangerous to your beliefs. It is likely that Axebone will be painting minis again in the future, though he may never make the breast-ish minis of yesterday.
God bless you Axebone, and welcome home.
Barkel
Ps. If you truly believe in your religion… I mean, truly believe in it, then you must believe it is the only true religion. If it is not, again, why bother? And if you truly believe in it and you see other people in “false” religions, you owe it to them to witness your religion to them, don\'t you? Don’t blame people that witness to you. They believe, even if you don’t, that they are trying to save your soul. You should feel flattered that they care. That\'s my opinion.
I don’t get it. Everybody is always talking about how important it is to find yourself, in spite of what others say. “You’ve gotta know who you are!” Pop psychology spews from every corner about how a person must know thy self. But whenever a person “finds God,” and changes their life everyone says they “lose themselves.” How do we know he didn’t finally FIND himself.
Actually, most of the people on this board have wished Axebone well, and that is super, but some people seem to think that he is wrong for ditching his art.
I think it is very common for a person to completely separate himself from his past when he makes such a discovery. Some people probably take it too far, but I think everyone in that situation should take it a bit away from where he was. After all, if nothing is going to change, why bother?
My experience is that most people will pick up and separate themselves completely from the world as a defense mechanism. When you first convert to Christianity from outside the fold your friends, well wishers, acquaintances, and even your loving family will berate you and tell you that you aren’t good enough to change. Nay sayers abound. You have to retreat for a while to discover what you can consider safe and what you should consider dangerous to your beliefs. It is likely that Axebone will be painting minis again in the future, though he may never make the breast-ish minis of yesterday.
God bless you Axebone, and welcome home.
Barkel
Ps. If you truly believe in your religion… I mean, truly believe in it, then you must believe it is the only true religion. If it is not, again, why bother? And if you truly believe in it and you see other people in “false” religions, you owe it to them to witness your religion to them, don\'t you? Don’t blame people that witness to you. They believe, even if you don’t, that they are trying to save your soul. You should feel flattered that they care. That\'s my opinion.
I agree with the rest of what you said. However, the last bit is a slippery slope towards conversion at the end of a sword with the justification that you\'re damned anyway if you don\'t. Even if it doesn\'t lead to violence, persistently refusing to accept that someone else has a different point of view is a recipe for annoyance.
double interesting...
I do tend to agree with parts of what you say, Barkel.
Sure, it may be annoying, but people who \"have found religion\" truly believe that they need to share this and bring others to the fold. I have had such folks knock on my door before, and I always politely decline, and I thank them.
Sometimes, in my darker moods, I almost envy some of those folks. I wish I could \'believe\' as strongly as they do. But, alas, I am much too cynical and doubtful.
Sure maybe Axebone will reenter the painting arena. I just hope he doesn\'t get his hands on a virgin Mary figure! lollol
I do tend to agree with parts of what you say, Barkel.
Sure, it may be annoying, but people who \"have found religion\" truly believe that they need to share this and bring others to the fold. I have had such folks knock on my door before, and I always politely decline, and I thank them.
Sometimes, in my darker moods, I almost envy some of those folks. I wish I could \'believe\' as strongly as they do. But, alas, I am much too cynical and doubtful.
Sure maybe Axebone will reenter the painting arena. I just hope he doesn\'t get his hands on a virgin Mary figure! lollol
Because the foundation of all true religions is a path to the same end. In my mind they are (on a very base level)cultural divergences on the fundamental truthes of life. So in essence no matter what religion one person practices, if they are true to themselves and have love in their heart they will most likely be following the same path as you. So I dont think there is a true religion... the truths are in us - religion can only be a guide.
But I must agree with you that in some way, one should be flattered by people trying to convert oneself. But it is the forceful nature of some of it that gets peoples hackles up. If you convert someone in such a way then they may be doing it out of other concerns rather than truly finding God in themselves.
just my thoughts
-Peter
