LouisCypher
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Are there real differences in painting over raw surfaces or primerized minis?
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Luca
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Luca
which surface do you paint over?
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To answer your question: Yes. There is a difference between primered & unprimered surfaces. Primers are generally formulated to stick unpainted surfaces; regular paints are not. If you paint directly on to the bare metal, your paint is much more likely to rub off or flake off.
As to the color question, I use either black or white depending on the general feel and final colors I want for the model.
As to the color question, I use either black or white depending on the general feel and final colors I want for the model.
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Loup-garou
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White primer followed by a chestnut ink matte medium/future wash. Helps me see the details better. Guess old age is setting in fast 
DennisMech
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come to the cult of black primer! Look look, it\'s pre shaded! see how fun this is! Join join join! Come to the dark side
come to the cult of black primer! Look look, it\'s pre shaded! see how fun this is! Join join join! Come to the dark side
tooshy
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Hmmmm...
So where was the voting button for grey ??? HUH?! HUH?!? I usually prep with white primer, but just recently I have been priming with GW\'s Shadow Grey which I find is the best of both worlds.
It brings out the details as Tuubje says white does, but also gives a dark enough background for the darker colours
So where was the voting button for grey ??? HUH?! HUH?!? I usually prep with white primer, but just recently I have been priming with GW\'s Shadow Grey which I find is the best of both worlds.
It brings out the details as Tuubje says white does, but also gives a dark enough background for the darker colours
You need to develop your own preference...
I started with white, moved to black, tried grey and went back to black. It totally depends upon your own personal technique. There is no right or wrong.
There is one wrong I have discovered however....The desire everyone has at first to achieve a completely even, smooth finish with an undercoat....Goodbye details!!! You are gonna paint over it, so just try to achieve a light, even dusting. IMO too much primer is as bad, if not worse, than no primer at all.
I am sure others might disagree, but I would imagine that this is one thing that most experienced painters would agree on.
*Waits for death by flak*
I started with white, moved to black, tried grey and went back to black. It totally depends upon your own personal technique. There is no right or wrong.
There is one wrong I have discovered however....The desire everyone has at first to achieve a completely even, smooth finish with an undercoat....Goodbye details!!!
You are gonna paint over it, so just try to achieve a light, even dusting. IMO too much primer is as bad, if not worse, than no primer at all.I am sure others might disagree, but I would imagine that this is one thing that most experienced painters would agree on.
*Waits for death by flak*
Originally posted by finn17
I am sure others might disagree, but I would imagine that this is one thing that most experienced painters would agree on.
*Waits for death by flak*
Face the wall there mister Finn17, this bullet through the back of your head should be quick. Death however shall be slow, as I will be missing a couple of times before I ....
Ah hell never mind, long winded jokes turn out crap most of the time. But I really should try that grey primer. Guess the \"slightly darker than light\" side is calling.
Flashman14
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I use black as I like a thin line between different colors. White and gray do make things go lighter but for me it\'s a pain to go in and make sure the seperation is clean. (As a rule I don\'t black line...)
If I need something brighter I\'ll basecoat thinly with white (over black primer) or I\'ll just double or triple coat my shade color for my \"light\" color.
I\'ve used all three but I think I prefer black about 95% of the time . . .
Finn\'s right - try\'em all and see what suits you best . . .
If I need something brighter I\'ll basecoat thinly with white (over black primer) or I\'ll just double or triple coat my shade color for my \"light\" color.
I\'ve used all three but I think I prefer black about 95% of the time . . .
Finn\'s right - try\'em all and see what suits you best . . .
airhead
Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
You said it.
I like to line up several minis on sticks (see stooges) then do them all at once with a quick blast across with the spray. Rotate 90* & repeat until four sides are done. Quick shot across the tops. Then look at the minis.
No grenades here. Total agreement. Early on, I learned that the fig didn\'t have to be WHITE to be primed. Just enough primer for the paint to stick to. If the spray can missed a spot (under the cloak in the crotch), then it probably won\'t see much wear anyway.
I like to line up several minis on sticks (see stooges) then do them all at once with a quick blast across with the spray. Rotate 90* & repeat until four sides are done. Quick shot across the tops. Then look at the minis.
Valander
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I\'ve been known to use white, gray, black, and even brown primers. Depends on what overall colors and effect you want. Lately, though, I\'ve been tending towards more white (maybe it\'s just the stuff I\'ve been painting).
Anyway, I completely agree that you should try each and see what works best with your style.
Also, finn17 is right on the mark when he says that too much primer is an evil thing. When I do priming (I use sprays), I\'ve found that it\'s much better to do a couple of light dustings than to hose down the mini. Too much spray can run, which is even worse than clogging details!
Anyway, I completely agree that you should try each and see what works best with your style.
Also, finn17 is right on the mark when he says that too much primer is an evil thing. When I do priming (I use sprays), I\'ve found that it\'s much better to do a couple of light dustings than to hose down the mini. Too much spray can run, which is even worse than clogging details!
When I started painting I was using white primer because the guy at GW told me that I was doing a \"good\" army so I should use white. But lately I\'v been discovering the wonders of black primer. It works great for me since I usually start from the darkest color to go up to the lightest. Rejoice dennis I have joined you !!!!! muhahahahaha.
vincegamer
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You for got the GRAY(vy)!!
I most often use gray, but I\'m not wedded to it. I have used black spray from GW but it kinda sucked texturewise. In the winter, when I can\'t go outside to prime, I use white cause that\'s what color the brush on primer comes in.
I most often use gray, but I\'m not wedded to it. I have used black spray from GW but it kinda sucked texturewise. In the winter, when I can\'t go outside to prime, I use white cause that\'s what color the brush on primer comes in.
Impernouncable
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Black. Always.
I use layering techniques all the time, so there are between three and a dozen very thin layers of paint on every part of my figures. This overcomes all color dulling and coverage problems generally associated with black primer while maintaining a smooth surface.
Primer texture problems are in my experience generally due to inadequate shaking or using the primer outside of its temperature tollerances.
I use layering techniques all the time, so there are between three and a dozen very thin layers of paint on every part of my figures. This overcomes all color dulling and coverage problems generally associated with black primer while maintaining a smooth surface.
Primer texture problems are in my experience generally due to inadequate shaking or using the primer outside of its temperature tollerances.
kittykat23uk
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It really depends on what I\'m painting. I use either spray on black or white. For conf. minis I normally use white if I\'m doing a light coloured wolf, black if its going to be a predominately black wolf. White is better for building up thin layers of lighter colours in my experience.
There are also people out there who swear by using clear primer, which is a brush on \"glass and tile medium\". Never tried that myself though.
Regards
Kat
There are also people out there who swear by using clear primer, which is a brush on \"glass and tile medium\". Never tried that myself though
.Regards
Kat
