White Primer

evil tendencies

Cake or Death?
Okay, I\'ve been painting with black primer for the last 17 years and I have gotten way too used to the fact that I don\'t need to blackline that much. However, I\'m going after a Reaper 54mm figure and I think that I\'m going to have to use white primer. Could you guys tell me how you blackline when using white primer?
 

Aliengod3

Active member
Well I am not sure if my method is the same as everyone elses but I use diluted black paint, about 4:1 water:paint, and just set the tip into the area where your putting the black line and paint until I get the black as dark as I need it. Keepint the paint dilue will make the line more smooth and a little more blended than one thick line.
 

freakinacage

Well-known member
dont blackline, tis a horrid practice! darkline. just use a very dark shade of the colour you are lining and use that, its not as harsh and looks nicer imo. also try using a grey primer - halfords do a really nice - it\'s cheap, smooth and sticks nicely
 

Sauce Devil

New member
One method I\'ve seen - by a real pro - is to prime in white and then paint in the black-lining before adding the base-coats.

Another method is to use ink; it always leeches when I try to do it but I\'m still learning.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Originally posted by Sauce Devil
One method I\'ve seen - by a real pro - is to prime in white and then paint in the black-lining before adding the base-coats.

Another method is to use ink; it always leeches when I try to do it but I\'m still learning.
Use a blast of Dullcoat after the ink is dry. No Leaching.

And I\'d also second freakinacages Grey Primer suggestion for larger 54mm and above. The difference between Black and White primers can be quite difficult to adjust to. Grey is the perfect middle ground and with careful planning the smoothness of the graduations can be a lot more effective.
 

arogers907

New member
I\'ve started using less and less primer on my minis. With just the lightest dusting (I\'m using white at the moment) of primer, I don\'t have any problem getting thin layers of my base coat to stick. It becomes much less important which color of primer I\'m using.

As for the black-lining. It certainly has it\'s place and, for the most part, I think that place is in an army on a gaming table. For the most part, I think dark lining is the way to go. It also flows pretty organically with the rest of the painting process. It\'s becomes a final, dark stage of your normal shading steps. Looks sharp!

-Andy
 

Sauce Devil

New member
Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Use a blast of Dullcoat after the ink is dry. No Leaching.

Thanks Dragon but what I mean is that the ink runs or spreads into the white areas as it dries. I\'ve tried using a more dilute solution of ink, that didn\'t work so I\'ll try using undiluted ink again.

I\'m sure in a few months time I\'ll be looking back on how I was painting now and wondering how I ever made such a hash of it :p

I downloaded the CMON Painting Guide a couple of days ago and I plan to read through some of the tutorials over the weekend.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Originally posted by Sauce Devil
Originally posted by Dragonsreach
Use a blast of Dullcoat after the ink is dry. No Leaching.

Thanks Dragon but what I mean is that the ink runs or spreads into the white areas as it dries.
That sounds like you need to reduce the amount of fluid you are actually placing on the mini.
A quick touch of the side of the brush against an absorbent material, Kitchen Towel, Coffee Filter etc.. will enable you to manage the inks a lot easier.
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
sounds like an overloaded brush. That is ok for an underpainting. Let it flow (like a wash) into all the recesses.

Instead of inks, I\'m using Reaper\'s Liners. They are not ink - they don\'t leach, but they act and flow like inks. (They are also handy to darken a color up as they are so dark as to be near black in each color).
 
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