White robes and highlighting headaches.

Levdir

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I\'m in the process of assembling an Eldar army and want to do my Farseer in white with a red stripe around the edge of his robe (which is the inverse of my warlocks, who are either red or green with white stripes). The main colours I am working with are Blood Red, Skull White and Dark Angels Green. I\'m at a loss as how to highlight my Farseer\'s robes; you don\'t get much lighter than white. Since that\'s a dead end, I\'m wondering how best to shade the deep hollows in the folds. Finally, the Farseer I have is a salvage piece from the bottom of a friend\'s bitz box and is missing the regular Farseer spear, which I have replaced with a WHFB Dark Elf spear and a green stuff wrist. It\'s a mite plain looking and I\'m thinking it\'d be cool to run a spiral of parchment with random runic scripts from the top of the haft to the ground. Have any of you tried something like this? What material would you reccommend for the parchment, and what colours make for good paper? I\'ll post photos as soon as my computer gets back from the shop. Thanks in advance!
 

Astonia

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Aaah, painting white :) The best thing IMO, is to start with a basecoat of Kommando Khaki, and then highlight by adding more and more Bleached Bone and then Skull White to the mix. Pure Skull White should only be used on the very edges on the robe. Use many, many thin layers when doing this, and then give the robe a wash of kommando khaki/bleached bone once in a while to smoothen out the transitions between the layers.
(Have a look in my gallery or at my website where I have lots of pics of High Elves whos robes I\'ve painted like this)

good luck!

Anja
 

Levdir

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You own me.

Wow, you have a magnificent gallery. Anyway, thank you for the advice, I\'ll try that. I\'ll post some WIP pics in hopes of further advice, too, since I\'m not too good with blending. I guess it\'s time for a paint run...:)
 

EricJ

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I think Anja is spot on in her advice, however I have been using a lot of white lately and I kept reminding myself, if you want something to turn out well in white, before you even start just tell yourself it will take a LOT of very thin coats. A couple times I tried to break this rule and throw a white highlight on in 1 or 2 coats and it never looks right, chalky, etc...

White can be your best friend, you just need to treat her right and take your time. You can\'t break that \"rule of white\"
 

blackfly

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It\'s a mite plain looking and I\'m thinking it\'d be cool to run a spiral of parchment with random runic scripts from the top of the haft to the ground. Have any of you tried something like this? What material would you reccommend for the parchment, and what colours make for good paper?

I do a fair amount of such things with regular old paper. Granted this example is a quick gaming level figure. . .I don\'t know if you\'re doing showcase quality you might consider sculpting the banner.

This one was done with basic browns for an old weatherd look. I work it up just like cloth, and after a dark wash to deepen it, i find it helps to do some very thinned down striations across the face, before doing the runes or whatever. For parchment, I find light yellowish tans (like dun color), highlighted with ivory/cream, and then washed with dark brown.

If your going to shape it, a wash after doing so often looks good. Let it pool a little in the creases and folds you\'ve shaped, and it generates a little more shading than what will be there from the form alone.

hope that helps a little.
 

Levdir

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That sample mini you posted is almost precisely what I\'m after, thanks. Because I\'m planning on white robes, the banner/ribbon/whatever will more than likely stick to lighter tones, although (crazy thought here) maybe I could do it in red with white runes...the Farseer in question is the main HQ unit for an (as-yet) small Eldar army and won\'t likely become a display piece, I just like having some degree of customization here and there in all my armies for visual interest. Thanks again.
 

Levdir

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Minor Update

My local gaming club (known amusingly as \"GROTS\") is hosting a painting competition at the beginning of May, so I\'ve decided to try and paint my Farseer to a quality suitable for such a competition. I make no guarantees on that, knowing my own skill as I do :p, but it\'ll be fun to try. My problem lies in basing. I think for a competition that the everyday slottabase, even if spruced up with some gravel and static grass, won\'t really cut it. Any suggestions? I was thinking a hoverplatform made from the top of a Tau drone suspended on a cloud of scuplted \"smoke\", but I don\'t know if I really have time for such an endeavour.
 

Mosch

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How about 4 nylon strings (or anything else that\'s nearly invisible) combined with two magnets to make him hover for real? Should be pretty simple once you get the hole for the magnet into his bottom and conceal the magnet on the base.
 

Itchy

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Late to the white robe party, but when i do them i don\'t really do them white>grey, but throw in another color instead of make them white. Changes the look a bit, but i like the effect (which was strickly stollen from watching the top 7 for a long time).

Example;
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Levdir

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*bump*

Wait...I forgot I was on a *real* forum :rolleyes:
Anyway, the Farseer stands completed and ready for the competition. I apologize for lack of photos, the digital camera\'s on walkabout this weekend. In the end I went with a simple large-round base and a rock from the driveway painted and drybrushed to resemble limestone, o\'ertop a little bit of ballast and some static grass. The banner evolved into three banners, the large main one and a two small ones, red and green, all wending down the shaft of the spear. Extensive freehanding on the robe and elsewhere is present (what a crap sentence, yes?). The robe itself ended up being basecoated in Graveyard Earth and then Bleached Bone; I blended Bleached Bone and Skull White to highlight. Photos or a link to the mini as soon as I have them.
 
Can\'t wait to see for real.:)

[size=-2]rumour has it I\'m judging there. Oh, and bribes start at $500 for first cut. j/k [/size];)


:innocent:
 

Equus

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Good luck! Post pics! And yes, I\'m a hypocrite saying to post pics, because I have none in my gallery here at all, but I like looking.

...okay...that came out REALLY bad.

And more on topic, though late, if you\'re using him for gaming as well, you may want to consider that in the basing. If you\'ll use another fig for tabletop, then the base can be as flashy and humongous as you want. :D I\'d just hate for your Farseer to get shot in the head because his 5\" tall base makes him visible by LOS.
 

Levdir

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Originally posted by SaxonAngel
Can\'t wait to see for real.:)

[size=-2]rumour has it I\'m judging there. Oh, and bribes start at $500 for first cut. j/k [/size];)

:innocent:
Thanks! It\'ll be cool to see someone from the forums for real (besides Zaphod, of course). @Equus: He was originally designed for the game table, but my Eldar army\'s HQ is going to be two Farseers with three Warlocks each, so I\'m just going to buy the Ulthwe Seer Council and add that to my current raft of Warlocks. This Farseer is officially a display piece.
 
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