White Vs. Black Primer (what ido you use?)

[Corvus]

Originally posted by MalleusMiniArt
I don`t want to tell that black is better. No, I don`t mean that. I mean that it is up to personal preference.

I absolutely agree with this.

At first I didn\'t want to respond to this thread (because it has been held before and actually isn\'t really a discussion because everyone has his own preference), but I did because of my bad experiences with black primer recently

 

[Jabberwocky]

I have used both, although I prefer white primering mostly for the difficulty in getting the black covered. I have thought about primering in black and then doing a dusting with white just to pick out the raised areas and see the details. Anyone have any experience with this?

Jabber

 

[Corvus]

I thought there was a thread here somewhere that discussed that mix of primers. I believe one of the french guys (Cyril I think) used that technique.

 

[MalleusMiniArt]

Originally posted by Jabberwocky
I have thought about primering in black and then doing a dusting with white just to pick out the raised areas and see the details. Anyone have any experience with this?

Jabber

as I mentioned above at the moment I`m using mostly this kind of undercoat (zenithal). It`s like best of 2 worlds - it`s easy to blackline the model, very forgiving and achieving nice rich colors is not a problem. oh , and you see the details more clearly than on black (of course ) or white.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Zenithal

My apologies, Malleus. I read your post, but didn\'t realize what you meant.

 

[Modderrhu]

Originally posted by TAB Studio
... and now I have been taught, light primer then wash darker.

Exactly! I use a white undercoat, then a goodly, but thin, wash with black will fill in all the crevices and provide the basic shading. When I used to spray black, I had to do the wash anyway, since the spray never went into all the crevices, chainmail, for example. This really is the best of both worlds, in my over-inflated and flatulent opinion.

I used to use black, but I got fed up with painting white over hands and faces, effectively wasting my time. Two thin coats of white just wasted my time. Pastel red coats underneath red also just wasted my time.

It\'s not a zenithal undercoating technique, so requires no further skill to use.

 

[MalleusMiniArt]

zenithal does not require any particular skills too - you simply spray black first (with some corrections with black paint) and then spray white from above .
I know some painters are also using grey when working on zenithal basecoat but i found out it`s not neccessary.

 

[ipaintminis]

Originally posted by TAB Studio
White...Liquid Vallejo will not go back
I used to use gw but the consistency in the humid south is not dependable. I used a black with the white over head spray thus giving highlights before I even started but it bumped etc. and now I have been taught, light primer then wash darker.

ditto! lol mama knows best!

 

[provoke_me]

i too use zenithial. but i want to try going all white for one mini, altho the white primer i have is a little too think to do that.

 

[Godlikebuthumble]

I mostly use black primer, as I favour a dark\'n\'gritty(-ish) style of painting. However, since I did 24 Greatswords in Dark Blue - Yellow on black primer, I\'m priming white and painting certain areas black, as long as I really have to use some bitchy colours like lotsa white or yellow...

 

[Naukhel]

I generally use a white primer, and then do a flesh wash over the whole mini to bring out the details. It also helps with my skin-tones, somewhat. Of course, that\'s kind of relative. I don\'t think I\'m even a ranked painter, yet, here.

But I\'ve found that this white/flesh-wash has produced some of my better works.