wood elf dragon commission

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Whyspyr

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Awesome job! I hope mine turns out half as well!


i wonder why the guy couldnt wait another year for a new sculpt.....
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I just spent the last week hanging out with some friends who are also GW employees-GW is going to almost all plastic models to \"appeal to the conversion modelers.\" So the new dragon will most likely be plastic. Was also told not to hold my breath on the WE figures-I\'ve been promised that they were \"coming out next year\" since 1999 lol They are running out of armies to revamp tho so hope springs eternal! Meanwhile I\'ll paint up this dragon.
 
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DennisMech

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well, before the wood elves comes comes the brettonians. Then after that, the new ogre army. then after that, the summer campaign. Then after that, the new chaos dwarfs (now \"machines of chaos\". and then wood elves. probably a spring 2005 release.

Hooray for plastic! I\'m not too keen on the plastic dragon they have out now, I hope they do something more dynamic.
 
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kittykat23uk

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Hi folks

Thanks for the comments on my dragon! As for plastics, Dragons should NEVER be plastic!! :flame: As soon as they breathe fire they would melt themselves. :eek: Only the wings can be plastic if they have to be to save weight.

Oh, and I do not consider Resin to be in the same league as plastic (for all those of you who would say \"yeah but didn\'t you just get a big plastic dragon?!\"lol).

Regards

Kat
 
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KingM

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As for plastics, Dragons should NEVER be plastic!! :flame: As soon as they breathe fire they would melt themselves
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lol

Apparently GW are making a plastic oliphaunt for the LotR game, supposedly it will be their biggest plastic kit so far (ie bigger thana monolith :eek:)
 
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kittykat23uk

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Sounds interesting. Its a shame its not going to be metal though, I can\'t imagine that people would need to convert a monster like that. :rolleyes:

Regards

Kat
 
Corvus

Corvus

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*update*

Like I thought, the price I told to my customer was too high for him (which I completely understand, because this unpainted mini also costs quite a lot). Now he\'s looking for another, smaller piece.

Those big commissions bring in a lot of money, but of course I also like a bit of time for my own miniatures :D
 
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Trevor

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Apparently GW are making a plastic oliphaunt for the LotR game, supposedly it will be their biggest plastic kit so far (ie bigger thana monolith :eek:)
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I\'d heard it was going to be metal, and was going to be huge, but not in scale, we\'ll see soon enough.
 
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mini-goddess

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Originally posted by Corvus
Like I thought, the price I told to my customer was too high for him (which I completely understand, because this unpainted mini also costs quite a lot). Now he\'s looking for another, smaller piece.

Those big commissions bring in a lot of money, but of course I also like a bit of time for my own miniatures :D
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Sometimes I have clients put the larger models together themselves, as well as prime it, to lessen the cost a little bit for them, letting them know that I expect THEM to pin it properly. The other thing is to have him SHOW YOU what he considers a high quality paintjob--the style in which he wants the dragon painted. If what he shows you is an easier level than what you thought you had to do, then you could lower the cost for him there as well, since you know it wil take you less time.

Also, if you have to do the dragon for a gaming piece, you might want to double pin the neck part so it has as little \"twist\" in it as possible. I found putting it together was a pain in the but, but worth it!

Here\'s my example...

http://www.coolminiornot.com/?id=9797

With a link to my website that has more info on the dragon and my rider conversion.
 
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Vahilor

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I would take about 150-250 Dollars only for painting the dragon cause it\'s a big modell and will take some time to paint.

Vahilor
 
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Peyote Coyote

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great job on that dragon :)

have you done somthing with the wings? they look different.

With regards to the price, My advice is not to be too Greedy...
 
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kittykat23uk

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Originally posted by Peyote Coyote
great job on that dragon :)

have you done somthing with the wings? they look different.

With regards to the price, My advice is not to be too Greedy...
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True, but considering the amount of time that you\'d need to put into this project, $150 to $200 isn\'t really being greedy, far from it!

As a guide, I painted Archaeon up and sold him on ebay. It took an entire weekend painting and a few evenings prep work. He went for just over £100. This dragon would take at least twice that long.

Regards

Kat
 
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Cerridwyn1st

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About pinning

Earlier in the tread, you guys mentioned pinning. Yikes, what a pain in the arse.

First, I keep hearing that paperclips make great pin material. How could you say that? For one thing, you have to straighten the little suckers out. Then the DON\'T match the size of the bits that come with a pin vise.

Second, do you have any idea how easy it is to break a bit? I busted half of the ones that came with my vise before I gave up and got a drimmel. I\'ve only busted one bit with the drimmel, and that was after a small piece slipped out of my hand and went spinning on the drimmel bit. Snapped that sucker right off.

Last week I bought some long, straight wires at Michael\'s that are usually used for flowers. Got these little Chinese bits at the flea market yesterday (after I snapped the smalles drimmel bit). Lo and behold, I can match bit size to wire size almost perfectly. Yeah! :bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:

Does anyone know if the smallest drimmel bits come in fourpacks? :D
 
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mini-goddess

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Originally posted by Peyote Coyote
great job on that dragon :)

have you done somthing with the wings? they look different.

With regards to the price, My advice is not to be too Greedy...
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Who\'s dragon ya looking at? If it was mine, I did a couple extra things...first, the trainling edge of the wing was filed down thin and the rips were also filed out so they were out and out breaks in the wing material. Then I painted them as if they were glowing from underneath (like sunlight through fabric). Only other thing done to this dragon was the rider conversion, twisting and clipping some horns on the head, and adding a nose ring. :)
 
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QuietiManes

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Cerri: where do you get your drillbits from? You can get super thin ones from most hobby/model suppliers. Here\'s an example of what to look for from a woodworking store. Note it\'s in Canadian currency.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=41754&category=1,180,42240&ccurrency=1&SID=

Because paperclips are the gods of the pinning world. lol
 
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kittykat23uk

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I normally use straight rods of wire for pins and I get individual drill bits from a local hobby store. some are made of stronger stuff and I normally get those (don\'t know what they are made of but they look silver rather than black).

Regards

Kat
 
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KingM

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I use brass rod for pinning, it doesn\'t need to be very thick to be strong enough to hold most joins
 
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aescarion

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Originally posted by supervike


Do you have a picture posted of that? I always thought that particular dragon had a definate \'oriental\' feel to it.

Sounds very cool.
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Alas, no picture. And yes, it was quite a hefty amount of money but I worked it out per hour (that\'s modelling and painting). Add on the cost of the model, materials, the base, and some doll\'s house accessories I needed to get (oriental carpet, teacup) and you\'ve got yourself a spicy meatball.
 
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