paint for mini companies

fieldarchy

New member
Hey Everyone,

I would like to do some work for miniatures companies. I am trying to get my name out there a bit more now that I am painting full time. If anyone knows of a company who needs some stuff painted let me know.

I have been painting professionally for the past 4 years as well as competing for the past 3. I have done work for Reaper, Crunch Waffle Miniatures and Freebooter. I would like to paint models for other companies even for trade instead of cash.

I am also taking private commissions. If you are interested in anything please let me know.

Please feel free to email me meg@megsminiatures.com if you would like any work done or if you know of anyone who may be in need of a painter.

Meg
 

jahminis

New member
is this an ad, or are you looking for advice???
since it's in General Discussion, i'm going to assume that you are looking for feedback on your quest for work (silly me, we all know what happens when one assumes)...

first off, post some pictures of the work in this thread that you have done for companies in the past...
it's not clear in your gallery which minis were done as studio work...

second, show that you can adapt to a company's style...
we know you have skills, and a distinct style...
studios each have a set style that they want to maintain throughout their mini lines...

paint a Wyrd mini in their studio style...
paint a Privateer Press mini in their style...
paint a GW Space Marine in the 'Eavy Metal style...
show that you can paint a variety of "looks"...
this will help you get private commissions as well, as most people are looking to have minis painted in the style they see in the rulebooks...

go to GenCon...
most manufacturers have a booth there, and we all know most minis look better in real life than in photos...
show your work to as many companies as you can...

keep chasing that Golden Demon...
this is the award that every "professional" painter benfits from having on their resume...

keep pushing your skills...
in my opinion, a "professional" painter is only is only perceived to be as good as their latest work...
when you paint quickies that don't show off your skill, you are hurting yourself, especially if you are looking to get high-price, "display quality", commissions...

another big thing is to post your work on every different company forum that you can...
paint an Infinity mini, and put it on the Infinity forums...
paint a Wyrd mini, and put it on the Wyrd forums...
paint a Space Marine, and put it on the Bolter and Chainsword forums...
paint a Mercs mini, and put it on the Mercs forums...
paint a Privateer mini, and put it on the Privateer forums...
try sharing your work on DakkaDakka as well...
saturate the net...

show your range and adaptability, and the work will follow...

cheers
jah
 
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Anatora

Guest
second, show that you can adapt to a company's style...
we know you have skills, and a distinct style...
studios each have a set style that they want to maintain throughout their mini lines...

paint a Wyrd mini in their studio style...
paint a Privateer Press mini in their style...
paint a GW Space Marine in the 'Eavy Metal style...
show that you can paint a variety of "looks"...

this will help you get private commissions as well, as most people are looking to have minis painted in the style

jah


That post contains a lot of excellent and sensible advice. However, in a recent thread on the Reaper Boards, Meg was one of those who did not know what a "style" was, especially as it applied to the way people would paint their minis. Most of us can recognize who painted a mini without knowing anything about the mini except how it was painted. It is nice to know that other people recognize a "style" does exist even for company.
 

Chern Ann

Only when they're green
Staff member
Speaking as one of the companies that regularly pays thousands a month for paint jobs, the most important thing about your paint jobs is whether or not they sell miniatures. I've seen great sculpts with okayish paint jobs sell terribly, while mediocre sculpts with great paintjobs can do wonders. Of course, it helps to have both, but it's easier to change a paint job than to destroy a mold and start a sculpt from scratch.
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
Fair point Chern, do you have any more to add on what you think sells a mini? From your experience what kind of paint job makes people want to grab the mini and a brush and get into it? It's an interesting point.
 

Chern Ann

Only when they're green
Staff member
Really it's a question of making a figure look like the best it can be. Smooth, glowing skin (not literally), awesome NMM armor etc. What you'd expect from a GD winning entry, I suppose the challenge is to be consistent and quick enough to produce highly polished technical results quickly to make it worth your while.
 

tidoco2222

Active member
I've never been good enough to paint for companies that want to pay me, I have mainly been offered painting for free minis, but I would say judging by the work I have seen of yours on Cmon that you are easily good enough to do it. I also believe that companies will approach you for your own panting style. I did apply once for a studio job at Wargames Foundry and had to adapt to their style which was really hard and I narrowly missed out on the job. But looking back now I am pleased about that as to change to their style full time would have been a real pain.
 

Infidel Castro

New member
Erm, I know it's not a competition, but I'd put you a step or two above Meg, chief! It's perhaps about preference, but by Jove you're a very accomplished technical painter with a style that can be turned to whatever was asked as you're thorough and clean and overall you have a quality eye for colour, something that again puts you above Meg. Simple as, really.
 
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crazyboyae1

New member
@ Infidel Castro, thats kinda a dick thing to say in Meg's thread thats about giving her advise on getting a better mini painting gig...
Meg your a really good painter and I feel that all you can do now is keep getting better and the jobs will come. maybe winning your demon this year will help :)
 

Infidel Castro

New member
@ Infidel Castro, thats kinda a dick thing to say in Meg's thread thats about giving her advise on getting a better mini painting gig...
Meg your a really good painter and I feel that all you can do now is keep getting better and the jobs will come. maybe winning your demon this year will help :)

That's becasue I'm kinda a dick.
 

Infidel Castro

New member
He's Welsh, what do you expect? :)

Aye, and that :D

A word to the wise - don't bother with trying to be a pro-painter for a living. You get paid piss-all and you'll end with with squinty eyes and a bad back. Get a proper job, use your degree, gain some self-respect, mix with other humans, and then paint when you WANT to paint.
 

generulpoleaxe

New member
Aye, and that :D

A word to the wise - don't bother with trying to be a pro-painter for a living. You get paid piss-all and you'll end with with squinty eyes and a bad back. Get a proper job, use your degree, gain some self-respect, mix with other humans, and then paint when you WANT to paint.


best advice on here realy, that's why I'm trying to get out of the painting game.
Unless your getting paid a reasonable wage by a company the piss poor pay for the hours involved in freelance painting isn't good enough to be able to put money aside for the quite periods (and the amount ebay generaly brings after costs doesn't cover the quite periods anymore.)
It's a third world industry now, much like most others!
 

SJB

New member
There are a small number of people who can get away with painting as a living (or a lucrative sideline) in countries where the exchange rate/cost of living doesn't work in their favour but they are few and far between. Basically have to be bleeding edge good and blindingly quick with an almost (or actually) unhealthy ability to chain oneself to their desk.
 

Infidel Castro

New member
Having managed to work in the industry for one year before just about going stir-crazy due to a lack of human interaction, I can talk about this from experience (albeit shorter than some). I was very lucky in that I was given the equivalent of a salary, paid monthly, but that also covered casting miniatures rather than just painting. Still, I left a decent position to do what i was doing, following the nostalgia trip rather than using some cold, hard consideration. My painting was of a decent standard by the end of the year, having been just above average, but i would never call myself a very good painter. If i'd carried on for another couple of years, I might be in the 8's regularly, but that's a possiblity rather than a likelihood (based on patience as much as the old glass-ceiling effect). However, I was going nuts in the house on my tod, so I had to jack it in to join the rat-race again. As it is, I'm still suffering from burn-out on the painting front, and rarely feel the urge to go paint-crazy. That's what can happen when a hobby becomes something more, though I know some folk see it the other way and love the idea that their hobby can make money for them.

Oh, and try to account for a year or two's gap on your CV - it takes some impressive glossing over. I still say I was doing freelance work for a games company/magazine, with some occasional other bits involved, trying to talk up the self-organisational skills that sort of stuff can require, but ultimately I was sitting in a room painting toys all day, something that people in prison used to do only as far back as the 70's and 80's :D.
 
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Minicreatures

New member
I would say to try painting and posting on as many mini company sites as you can find, and for those minis, I would choose figures from their lines that you enjoy the sculpt and theme of. That way when people see your work, your gallery sets a tone, and they have a feel for what you like to do and are passionate about. Network, network, network and do your best to stay in contact.

Style is in my opinion really a personal thing, and something a painter develops over time. I don't recommend getting overly hung up on it, or pigeon holing or type casting yourself as one type of painter or another. Experiment with what you like and don't like and don't worry about it. Besides, how will new and better styles develop if that doesn't happen? You obviously have very good technique and I agree with Chern Ann, the bottom line is: will the work one does help sell the mini and spark the imagination of the buyer/audience. Also, since you are still in school, I would highly recommend taking some courses in digital art as well. I have a degree in illustration also, and I'm thinking of going back for some additional classes in this, since this seems to be the way alot of the markets (not all of course) are headed. And it's another tool in your belt of techniques. You never know where a career as an illustrator may go. It's certainly not as set in it's path as an engineer per se. You could wind up doing concept art or sculpture even. I would say you definitely have alot of talent, and keep at it!

I've been working on building up several different portfolios for different purposes, mini painting, concept art, illustration, sculpture, and three comics that are works in progress at the moment. It helps to study the surrounding areas of interest of the subject matter for the stuff you like in particular as well. Essentially throw as many irons in the fire as you can.

As for the negative people, meh. It's a competitive world sure, but being an artist and getting paid what one SHOULD be paid is very rare in every area of it. You really should not go into this expecting that. Often I have found that it's the person who perseveres and is a stubborn bastid who is more successful than the one with 'cutting edge' talent who usually ends up so headf***ed by his own expectations he can't complete anything. Trust me, I've seen this. If someone loves what they are doing and devoting themselves to it, that's not something to poo poo at, particularly when they are asking for advice.

I find the miniature world very interesting, it has grown alot since it's beginning! Just look at old White Dwarves mags from 10 years ago and the illustrations & paint work in them, and how different the painting world is now. It's really exciting, from the concept art, to the sculpting , to the painting. And what's also encouraging are how many new companies are cropping up in it. Make lists of companies you like and would like to do work for and go after them. I wish I could give more advice but that's all I can think of for the moment :)

Best of luck!
 

ollieholmes

New member
Okay you might not make a fortune but for some people its about making a living from something you enjoy. I have recantly gone into self employment producing decals for plastic model aircraft and i have found my modelling level has decreased big time.
 
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