Alien Contact: Controversial Subject matter.

JesterzUSMC

JesterzUSMC

Recovering Megalomaniac
Avelorn said:
Sigh *facepalm*
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LMAO! I saw that coming....but I didn't want to push my luck by being a part of it...LMAO!
 
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Chern Ann

Chern Ann

Only when they're green
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cannon_fodder said:
Determining what would be filtered (moved to user areas only) would be at your discretion (and easily stated in the users agreement). we are bringing this up, not to tell you how to operate your website, but offering a suggestion that might make it better. Whether or not you choose to is at your discretion.
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And how do you know I'm not already exercising my discretion and simply have a particularly high tolerance as to what I find acceptable? Maybe I just don't like the color red on Fridays or something.... I have a problem with arbitrary decisions made based on how a single person is feeling when there are thousands of interested members of a community, even if those are my feelings. Your suggestion is noted by myself, the moderators and quite a few community members, but since there are so many cultural backgrounds represented here I would rather default to the "grow a thicker skin" school of censorship than the Disney one. Those that cannot accept it can choose to move on, such as Roy who has asked for his account to be removed.
 
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ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
Chern Ann said:
And how do you know I'm not already exercising my discretion and simply have a particularly high tolerance as to what I find acceptable? Maybe I just don't like the color red on Fridays or something.... I have a problem with arbitrary decisions made based on how a single person is feeling when there are thousands of interested members of a community, even if those are my feelings. Your suggestion is noted by the myself, the moderators and quite a few community members, but since there are so many cultural backgrounds represented here I would rather default to the "grow a thicker skin" school of censorship than the Disney one. Those that cannot accept it can choose to move on, such as Roy who has asked for his account to be removed.
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I fail to see what this has to do with Gandalf Vs. an AT-AT.

I ask that Nakatan consider this controversial Wizard vs. Imperial Walker sunject matter for his next diorama. It's the only way to be sure to get some heated debate going over the matter! I'm off to print up some "Team AT-AT" shirts to proudly show off my support once the flames of this controversial subject are fully washing over these boards. Gandalf can suck it!
 
BPI

BPI

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Avelorn said:
...rather something that cut to the core of what we actually are doing and the underlying values in what we portray. I can understand that some will have a problem taking this discussion that serious but for me it asks questions on how I see this hobby in relation to the values I have and thus what subject I will portray in dioramas and paintings.
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Hi Avelorn, I sort of bumped into this earlier this year when I painted Vampire Meg. A little girl dressed as a vampire & she's just killed the family dog out on the garden lawn. Is she really a vampire or just taking her imaginary play too far? I did wonder whether I would get any comments from people who were uncomfortable with my mixing children & violence so much. Plus in the UK, furry animals receive more funds through charitable donation than human beings do. I wondered if a slaughtered family pet in my scene might arouse ire. Nothing so far of course :) But it is in my mind & one of the reasons the piece isn't in the Gallery yet.

There's a Heresy Miniatures Ghoul that I want to purchase that is an older woman holding up a dead baby. Pretty obvious how it could cause offence/upset & I am at least trying to keep that in mind despite still intending to paint it. It should be horrific & disturbing & if it isn't my brush skills will have to be considered inadequate. I shall still have to pop it into the Gallery on a weekend when I'm feeling strong though ;)

Having spent a decade immersered in the world of comics I rather feel I've been through a lot of these arguments before, "Just for children...", "Art versus Craft...", etc. If I could type faster I might try to join in more!

I wonder how much of a disconnect there is between people who only ever use their models as game pieces & those who produice dioramas? A toy versus sculpture tension that has to be flattened out in order to properly see the artistic landscape & where our hobby sits in it.

Food for though indeed. Cheers, B.

PS AT-ATs have always looked stupid. any multi-billion pound weapon that can be brought down by a bloke on a jetbike armed with a bit of string are crap :D Gandalf for the win!
 
Dragonsreach

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
BPI said:
There's a Heresy Miniatures Ghoul that I want to purchase that is an older woman holding up a dead baby. Pretty obvious how it could cause offence/upset & I am at least trying to keep that in mind despite still intending to paint it. It should be horrific & disturbing & if it isn't my brush skills will have to be considered inadequate. I shall still have to pop it into the Gallery on a weekend when I'm feeling strong though.
There's been questions raised here before about whether we should be challenged in our "comfort zone" by the painting of mini's. I say go for it.
I might not like the result BUT equally I might. ;)

Having spent a decade immersered in the world of comics I rather feel I've been through a lot of these arguments before, "Just for children...", "Art versus Craft...", etc.
I agree, just look at the "Preacher" Series and more recently "Kick-Ass". Fluffy-Bunny they ain't.

I wonder how much of a disconnect there is between people who only ever use their models as game pieces & those who produice dioramas? A toy versus sculpture tension that has to be flattened out in order to properly see the artistic landscape & where our hobby sits in it.
A Damn Fine Question and perhaps one that you should propose the discussion on.


PS AT-ATs have always looked stupid. any multi-billion pound weapon that can be brought down by a bloke on a jetbike armed with a bit of string are crap :D Gandalf for the win!
Absolutley Gandalf and a ball of wool, AT-AT would be totally PWND
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Yuggoth

New member
My girlfriend loves it. so stick that in your pipe Roy, me boy! And yes, she's had that "experience" that concerns you and your close personal friend. She's learned to cope, and most importantly after any traumatic experience, she's moved past it.

CHEERS!
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I didn`t want to bring it up at first because it is a very personal matter, but since Jesterz has taken the leap I stand by his side:
It is exactly the same thing with my girlfriend. I told her about the dio and she was quite interested. When she finally saw it, she found it quite harmless and felt in not way uncomfortable. As others have pointed out, there are zillions of thing on the internet that are so so so much harder.

Glad that Roy has left us. Not too fond of threads turning into shitstorms :-D

Btw I`m on team Gandalf! I never understood why they didn`t use TIE-bombers on hoth
 
JesterzUSMC

JesterzUSMC

Recovering Megalomaniac
yeah...taking out a base or rampaging across the country side...AT-Ats all the way, but against anything smaller than the broadside of a barn...they are useless.

Gandalf...or even Frodo, FTW!
 
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supervike

Super Moderator
BPI said:
Hi Avelorn, I sort of bumped into this earlier this year when I painted Vampire Meg. A little girl dressed as a vampire & she's just killed the family dog out on the garden lawn. Is she really a vampire or just taking her imaginary play too far? I did wonder whether I would get any comments from people who were uncomfortable with my mixing children & violence so much. Plus in the UK, furry animals receive more funds through charitable donation than human beings do. I wondered if a slaughtered family pet in my scene might arouse ire. Nothing so far of course :) But it is in my mind & one of the reasons the piece isn't in the Gallery yet.

There's a Heresy Miniatures Ghoul that I want to purchase that is an older woman holding up a dead baby. Pretty obvious how it could cause offence/upset & I am at least trying to keep that in mind despite still intending to paint it. It should be horrific & disturbing & if it isn't my brush skills will have to be considered inadequate. I shall still have to pop it into the Gallery on a weekend when I'm feeling strong though ;)
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I remember the little vampire scene! Never crossed my mind at all that it was controversial, but given some of the comments left for NAKATANS dio, I'm surprised that they didn't get to it! LOL

I bought that Heresy Ghoul w/dead baby....It is creepy, and horrible, but I like it. Ghouls aren't good guys!
 
Wyrmypops

Wyrmypops

New member
Now I have an itch to acquire an AT-AT leg to position coming down on Gandalf. The mook having exhausted his repertoire of magic on it, turns out an AT-AT ain't put off by various glowing light configurations shone at it.

Colonel Veers Flying Circus. *footsplat*
 
BPI

BPI

New member
Wyrmypops said:
Now I have an itch to acquire an AT-AT leg to position coming down on Gandalf. The mook having exhausted his repertoire of magic on it, turns out an AT-AT ain't put off by various glowing light configurations shone at it.
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Go for it Wyrmy. Wasn't Tolkien, in part, writing about the destruction of rural England by industrial progress? A huge military-industrial foot of domineering progress stomping down on the traditional (Druid/Merlin/Gandalf/Harry Potter) has plenty of potential for wider political interpretation :)

Reminds me of the scene in Kevin Smith's Clerks where a character wonders about it all being well, the Rebels blowing up the half-built Deathstar but what about all the contractors? Just innocent working joes, getting the job done on a cushy government contract? It's a long job so their families are with them onsite for a few years. How noble is blowing all of them up? ;)

Cheers, B.
 
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