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Teronus

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Small vegetarians? Like hobbits? Like Californian hobbits?

Looks good dude! I need to see some better pictures though. His left eyeball might need a tiny touch up. I really like the one very dark photo you have. Hey I went and voted on your stuff on P&P but I think I might have screwed up. I thought by giving you a silver I would improve your score but it looked like it actually hurt your average. What is the story with that?

I agree left eye need correction, it looks weird. Sorry bro but the Judges might be even more hard then us ;)
 

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Here's were I'm stopping guys I really appreciate all the help the model is 54 mm it's a very small 54 mm model it looks much much better in person these lol offs were seeing do not show up head onlikw I mentioned guys there were no eyes in the cast I've inserted these with green stuff and a pin . The eyes seem off in some photos and perfect in others . I cannot tamper with this no more even when there is nmm done and I see it alot there are some angles it's great and some are 1 dimensional. In person I really need to rely on what seeing . Although appreciated believe me but this version is as good as I can get it. I need to def stop.
 

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Here's another angle it's like any other model blow it up your going to see uneven blending and all sorts of things.. I really need to trust my eyes in this one guys.
 

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here is last year's 1st sec and 3rd these are bad eyes if the standards the same I just defiantly blew it out of the water the park and every other dimension around..:/
 

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here's 3 proper pics ..I love you guys but I gotta go with my judgement on this I've even had my jewelry designer fiance check in person under the ottlite....we're not perfect no model is by the way especially blown up .heres where were stopping..it's very well done in person there are no significant differences other than what's vs been cast like the facial slopes one brow is diff from the other size wise.demi I don't think you hurt me any way I'm ranked 136 on putty and paint....I guess that means I might know what I'm doing lol....but honestly you gave me what you thought it deserves...the fact is if the top ten artists show up at crystal brush and enter every category I don't think many artists will be coming home with anything.does that mean those that win are better not necessarily....I've seen many years carol rudyk and Matt chewish come home empty handed.their till great artists...whatever the judges like they'll pick.
 

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look at every bodies models the eyes are always never ever perfect the left eye my left is round the right eye my eye is a slit str8 down. But not significant enough to make a difference on how it's viewd.
 

Teronus

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Your right, on some pictures it's awesome on others it looks strange, if in person you think it's ok well then who am I to judge. We your friend all we want is for you to be the best and win and that is why maybe we act like mama's :)

When I saw my paladin I was like huh? Am i in my thread now.

It's awesome bro, good job !!!
 
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Here too it's in every bodies top work compare the first image and then the next angle in the second the eyeballs look different but it's the certain angles that do it along with its almost impossible to get perfect wut balls in such small scale the best anyone can do is get them to where it meshes in and can't be detected when viewing the entire model overall you'll see a the best example of this in the second from the top image it apeRs my right her right black eye pupil is round or rounder than the lefts cylindrical shaped pupil which is slimmer . I've been doing this along time guys and this is just an attempt to show the normalcy that comes in doing detail work. As Lin as its not significant enough on other angles it usually slips by. Look at a bunch of angles guys you'll see. This was actually a topic in one of my seminars at the game room where I teach classes. This is why when uou see judges viewing they roll and slowly turn the model to get an overall view of how things interact.
 

Demihuman

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Your right, on some pictures it's awesome on others it looks strange, if in person you think it's ok well then who am I to judge. We your friend all we want is for you to be the best and win and that is why maybe we act like mama's :)

When I saw my paladin I was like huh? Am i in my thread now.

It's awesome bro, good job !!!

Lol yup. I need to get you a close up of those eyes so you can see the green iris and the catch light :) Gotta go deal with my cranky 2 year old right now though. Have a great night and good luck at Crystal Brush!
 

Dragonsreach

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I'm sorry John I'm going to disagree about the eyes.
It is possible to get eyes correct and even, and I'm going to prove my case with the following painters:-

Alexi-Z
Jen Haley
Mrika
Brushmistress
SaxonAngel

go look at the galleries of those ladies.

Now with all things it takes practise to get an eye looking like they do but it's not impossible.
In the same way I was taught to shoot, start with a larger target, then practise getting at the bull until your cluster at the target has less and less dispersal. Reduce size of target and repeat.
Find a junk shop, bust or damaged ornament which has a face, repaint the eyes. Strip and repeat until it becomes "habitual", do something smaller, rinse and repeat.

Something to consider, the visible portion of the human eye is 2/3 Scelera (white) and 1/3 Iris/Pupil that's the ratio you need to work at hitting.
 

Bailey03

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Well, I'll toss in my two cents. When it comes to painting there's what is possible and then there's what is necessary. It's possible to do two reasonably identical eyes and include details like iris, pupil, and catch light. But for a 54mm or smaller scale is it necessary? In person, unless you really get up close and personal with the figure, you aren't going to notice all of the eye details. You get an impression of the eyes but you won't notice if they're perfect or not. If they're too far off then yeah, you'll notice. But close can often be good enough. The online pictures tend to show these figures larger than life so you see more detail. For the Crystal Brush where you depend on the online voting for half your score, it's worthwhile to look at the size of the pictures and how your figure would appear at that resolution. Check out the gallery and see how your entry will look at the same scale/resolution.
http://crystalbrush.coolminiornot.com/cbgallery
And of course the sculpt plays a large role in how easy or difficult the eyes are to paint. Sounds like the sculpt here wasn't doing you any favors.

On a side note, Blood, have you painted any eyebrows on this guy? I know he's got light hair so maybe it's just not showing up to my eyes. Either way, I'd start with the darker hair color and then sketch in the lighter one so the dark still shows through, giving the impression of texture.

Here are a couple eyes I've done recently. For Gokan (54mm) I didn't worry as much about details, but I did want to add a catch light. I think the size and shape of the irises is pretty consistent, but with the shadows it's hard to tell. I think it looks good enough so I'm happy.
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For the Dragoon (54mm) I tried to get both a blue iris, black pupil, and white catch light. The catch light worked better on his right eye, I was a little unsure how to deal with the light in his left eye considering the helmet would block it. I went for a subtle dot but it doesn't really show up. Meanwhile the pupil ended up being much crisper in his left eye than his right. But, in both the full body pictures and in person you aren't going to notice any of that. That's part of the reason I didn't bother with the detail as much on Gokan. However the catch light can still show up in the full figure photos. So I think that is worth trying at this scale.
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And going to a larger scale, 90mm, the eyes are much more important (well, much easier to see). With much more room to work I put a lot more detail in here, however they still aren't perfect. The pupil size is different in each eye. I've tried to fix it and may go back in again to see if I can tweak it. But, in the end, sometimes you just have to live with what you get. Will the difference be noticeable in person or in the online full figure photos (not just the close ups)? Probably not, so does it matter?
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Blood, if it looks good to you and will look good in the Crystal Brush size photos, then it's good! If you did want to tweak, I'd suggest trying to add a catch light dot. Other people will use a gloss coat on the eyes to get the effect. And, as I mentioned above, eyebrows! ;)

Oh! And another trick is to have the eyes looking off to one side. When they're dead center the face can look a little more static and size/spacing can be less forgiving. In both the Dragoon and Roman the eyes are looking slightly to the figure's right. If you were to redo them here (which I'm not saying you should do) then I'd have them looking off to his left. His head is titled that way so it'd be nice for the eyes to match the pose. Straight ahead is fine but off to the right would look wrong (why turn your head left and then look right?).
 

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I did not mean to come off offensive guys all you are my eyes and ears so that's why writing and texting is a bad form of comm. last night while I was coming up with how I could explain what I thought was the problem there was a loud crash I find outside a Lil old man pinned against a telephone pole dead. Literally his guts out his neck and bleeding from his eyes mouth and ears I checked for a pulse while we called 911 . After all said and done my head was not clear and wrote fast. I apologize guys my head was not in the right and should've waited for the right time. It's was a horrible image. Today I'm going to attempt to put my glasses in and sit down to the model and see what I'm not seeing. Thanks guys for all your support. You too DR.
 

Teronus

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I did not mean to come off offensive guys all you are my eyes and ears so that's why writing and texting is a bad form of comm. last night while I was coming up with how I could explain what I thought was the problem there was a loud crash I find outside a Lil old man pinned against a telephone pole dead. Literally his guts out his neck and bleeding from his eyes mouth and ears I checked for a pulse while we called 911 . After all said and done my head was not clear and wrote fast. I apologize guys my head was not in the right and should've waited for the right time. It's was a horrible image. Today I'm going to attempt to put my glasses in and sit down to the model and see what I'm not seeing. Thanks guys for all your support. You too DR.

Geez bro, *(%^*(% man I am sorry you had to go trough this and poor kid...

I hate these forums sometimes because I am not the best at communicating in this form and I feel i screw up a lot sometimes. The important is we are all here today alive and well. I have the same problem with my royal guard 30 mm scale, a squinting face behind a full face mask... I am having the hardest time the's not light that goes inside my hands are blocking the light. I will find a way i know but I have a hard time.
 

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This is what I got to I've gotten white dots inside the pupils. Guys you all know me when do I ever NOT take criticism. This last night left me not ready to write in the proper way what I was really trying to say. Me get upset from criticism you all know me better than that. When have I ever gotten ruffled over Frits. This was an episode that was very disgusting to see a poor human being with his eyes open and his guys best out his neck . I came in in shock and shouldn't have tried to make a point under those conditions so believe me guys. I would never dog ,get upset or not take critical. How many times has DR told me what he didn't like or what I can do better.thats not how I am and you all know that. Baily thankyou , teronus your my boy mate. And Demi you added ine of my more honest and alienated dudes that I'm happy to know on here. Thank you all. I got the ferkin white DIT in the pupil. And I still can't see it.lol
 
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up posed guys he Had a BAL of 1.6 which I guess is alot..a young punch kid took his dad's car w/o asking as it was reported stolen and got all liquor ed up and they found large AMOUNTS OF COcaine IN HIS BLOOD. THE OFFICER I SOME OF SAID HES GONNA HAVE 3/4 OF THE rest of his mis life TO THINK BOUT WHAT HE DID. HE HAD NO RECOLLECTION OF WHAT HAPPENED.MEAN WHILE SOME poor FATHER BROTHER SON Lost HIS Life IN WHAT I FEEL WAS A BARBARIC WAY...GO TO YOUR FAMILIES AND GIVES THEM BIG HUGE CAUSE THERE IS A FAMILY CELEBRATING CHRISTMAS WITH OUT THERE LOVE ONE.. REALLY TICKS ME OFF GUYS REALLY REALLY BREAKS MY HEART .
 

Bailey03

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Oh wow, that's really horrible to hear. I know I would have been really shaken up if I'd see that. It's sad that one person's bad decision can affect a whole lot of people.

I think the white gives his eyes a little more life. As for my examples, those are two 54s and one 90. I don't know how people like Demi do those nice eyes on 28s. And Blood, I can show you plenty of bad eyes that I've done. It's all a process and slowly each one I do is (hopefully) better than the last. But working on larger figures, like 54s and bigger, gives you a bit more room to experiment and try new things, more detail, etc. Then, if you can find a way to transition whatever new detail/technique down to the next smaller scale it can really push your painting forward. I applied a lot of the lessons I learned working on that 90mm head to my 54mm faces and I think the results show a big jump in quality.
 

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Took the liberty of giving browse @baily
white catch lite @ter @dems.

still need to sweep the model now from a ton of angles. Think Johnny also needs a eye exam. I so don't want to admit I'm getting older.
@ DR the pics helped. But I def ain't an alexiz a Haley or any of those pro professional. Gee whiz DR couldn't you give me somebody more comparable to my level. It doesn't matter what I do if the pros show up.
 
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