What the hell you talking about!? There is no such thing as cheating in this hobby. Otherwise everybody is cheating one way or an other.
bgcdazzler's first ever mini WIP (a confusion of cockups and learnings)
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What the hell you talking about!? There is no such thing as cheating in this hobby. Otherwise everybody is cheating one way or an other.
Digganob
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Three things, it's not cheating if it's a brilliant idea. I'm glad the tip I shared with you helped. And you the freakin man for sculpting another Ork. Hehe, your doing some awesome sculpting buddy. Now on to the IF's. IF you deside you want to cast him, and IF you want my help, just give me a shout.
SaintToad
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That orc is looking GREAT!
Would you mind taking a picture of what you mean by 'cocktail sticks'? I really love the texture you got on the neck, and I'd love to give it a try some time. I can't wait to see how your wine-inspired trick for the medusa relief works out.
If this is your second sculpture ever, you should probably do it a bunch more, because you have a real talent. I'm a big believer in hard work, but there is no denying that some people are blessed with natural ability!
Would you mind taking a picture of what you mean by 'cocktail sticks'? I really love the texture you got on the neck, and I'd love to give it a try some time. I can't wait to see how your wine-inspired trick for the medusa relief works out.
If this is your second sculpture ever, you should probably do it a bunch more, because you have a real talent. I'm a big believer in hard work, but there is no denying that some people are blessed with natural ability!
bgcdazzler
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Thank you all for the lovely comments.
@Halden: welcome aboard. The more the merrier! Not sure what's happened with the pics there, I've always used tinypic.
@Tero: thanks, my friend. I guess if the Supreme 5th Dan and Metal Master of the International Brotherhood (plus Sisterhood, with
Arch) of Decorative Figurine Artistry says it's not cheating, well, that's good enough for me. ??????
@Digga: as always your expertise would be very welcome. I'm still undecided about casting him, but I 'may' have 'accidentally' bought some mould making silicone and resin stuff from the Internet...
And of of course it had to be an Orc. ??????
@Saint: yep, Digga's right. I thought cocktail sticks was an international thing, but perhaps you heathen Americans prefer the olive just floating about in a proper Martini, rather than spiked and balanced...
if it helps though my toothpick broke, so I've been using a wooden kebab skewer that I sharpened with a craft knife. Whatever works!
right: an update in the next post...
@Halden: welcome aboard. The more the merrier! Not sure what's happened with the pics there, I've always used tinypic.
@Tero: thanks, my friend. I guess if the Supreme 5th Dan and Metal Master of the International Brotherhood (plus Sisterhood, with
Arch) of Decorative Figurine Artistry says it's not cheating, well, that's good enough for me. ??????
@Digga: as always your expertise would be very welcome. I'm still undecided about casting him, but I 'may' have 'accidentally' bought some mould making silicone and resin stuff from the Internet...
And of of course it had to be an Orc. ??????
@Saint: yep, Digga's right. I thought cocktail sticks was an international thing, but perhaps you heathen Americans prefer the olive just floating about in a proper Martini, rather than spiked and balanced...
if it helps though my toothpick broke, so I've been using a wooden kebab skewer that I sharpened with a craft knife. Whatever works!
right: an update in the next post...
bgcdazzler
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Right then. Firstly some more alcohol-based lunacy (but then it is almost Christmas...).
I don't have much by way of tools, but wanted to do a sort of tortoiseshell/stamped pattern on the pauldron before I stick Medusa on it. So I figured: why not make one?
I stuck some clay on an oversized paper clip 'borrowed' from work...
Then made a reverse pattern in the end (a rough hexagon).
baked it, then whittled some of the excess with a knife to neaten and define the shape better:
And then the moment of truth: does it work? I tested it on a spare piece of clay, et voila!
hmm. Not too bad. So I then did it on the pauldron, and pre-Medusa it looks like this. I think I'll stipple it to give it a bit more interest, but I'm quite pleased with it.
I don't have much by way of tools, but wanted to do a sort of tortoiseshell/stamped pattern on the pauldron before I stick Medusa on it. So I figured: why not make one?
I stuck some clay on an oversized paper clip 'borrowed' from work...
Then made a reverse pattern in the end (a rough hexagon).
baked it, then whittled some of the excess with a knife to neaten and define the shape better:
And then the moment of truth: does it work? I tested it on a spare piece of clay, et voila!
hmm. Not too bad. So I then did it on the pauldron, and pre-Medusa it looks like this. I think I'll stipple it to give it a bit more interest, but I'm quite pleased with it.
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bgcdazzler
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And the slightly more interesting pics: here is Medusa in place.
and here he is almost (almoooost!) finished.
what else do you think he needs? Anything?
and here he is almost (almoooost!) finished.
what else do you think he needs? Anything?
bgcdazzler
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Aw, Digga, I'd love to see an Orc from you! (And probably buy one.)
I might give the teeth a try: I was wondering whether I need a snaggly big tooth in the scarred side of his face to match, though?
thanks, Kretcher; much appreciated.
Maenas, that's very kind of you (and flattering). I'm loving learning about this stuff and experimenting; if it helps you and others too, well, that's a nice bonus. Someone (Saint? Hard to check as I'm on my phone) was asking about the neck skin, so happy to do a SBS on something like that too, tonight. If I skip anything you want to know, just ask!
I I have a couple of things I want to try, but pretty close to calling him done now. And yes Arch (of the Eternal Sorority), he needs a name! My thought was:
'_______ ________ of the Medusa Clan': suggestions of what to put in the blanks are very welcome!
I might give the teeth a try: I was wondering whether I need a snaggly big tooth in the scarred side of his face to match, though?
thanks, Kretcher; much appreciated.
Maenas, that's very kind of you (and flattering). I'm loving learning about this stuff and experimenting; if it helps you and others too, well, that's a nice bonus. Someone (Saint? Hard to check as I'm on my phone) was asking about the neck skin, so happy to do a SBS on something like that too, tonight. If I skip anything you want to know, just ask!
I I have a couple of things I want to try, but pretty close to calling him done now. And yes Arch (of the Eternal Sorority), he needs a name! My thought was:
'_______ ________ of the Medusa Clan': suggestions of what to put in the blanks are very welcome!
Digganob
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Lord Sprog Rot of The Madusa Clan. Oh man, ork names are so fun I could start laying down tons. But for now one shall do 
Also seeing how you would love to see an Orc bust from me,.......and thus it begins. I have wanted to do a bust of my ork nob from when my buddies and I played Gorka Morka back in the day.
Also seeing how you would love to see an Orc bust from me,.......and thus it begins. I have wanted to do a bust of my ork nob from when my buddies and I played Gorka Morka back in the day.bgcdazzler
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Hello all, and welcome Delta. Glad you like the armour piece, Tero.
I promised a step by step that shows how I use my 'tools' (for want of a better word). So here's one for a ruff of fur I've added to his backplate. It basically shows all the steps I go through and how I use each bit, so hopefully it will be helpful – and not just somebody randomly stabbing stuff with a stick.
First pic: I use bits of clay (I use Fimo professional in Dolphin grey, if that helps anyone) to block in the rough shapes I want to have, like so:
The rough shapes blocked in in full:
Then using a cocktail stick/toothpick/kebab skewer/any pointy thing I 'push' the clay down to stick it to the main model. I do this for two reasons: 1 because the main body has already been baked, so it's okay to push against (and you have to do it to get it to stick) and 2. Because in a moment we'll pull the clay away from the model, and if it isn't stuck fast it'll just peel off.
Push in quite hard here.
Then we score lines away from the main body, like this one. Hence it needs to be stuck pretty fast. Basically just use it as a pencil at this stage, drawing lines.
Here it is with that bit done. Looks rubbish so far, right? Yes. Yes it does.
Those fuzzy crumbly bits are really annoying. I don't know if it is a Fimo thing (as the clay cools it gets less elastic and more prone to breaking) or not, but it drives me nuts. You basically have to press down on each little bit with the tip of the skewer until it smooths out but leaves the lines you've drawn. I don't have a pic for this.
At this point with the neck wrinkles I stopped, happy that it was smooth enough. But for the fur I want a bit more texture, so I get a pin and score more, smaller lines on it. (Warning: colossal thumb alert!)
And there we go: fur!
Next up I'll put the finished thing...
I promised a step by step that shows how I use my 'tools' (for want of a better word). So here's one for a ruff of fur I've added to his backplate. It basically shows all the steps I go through and how I use each bit, so hopefully it will be helpful – and not just somebody randomly stabbing stuff with a stick.
First pic: I use bits of clay (I use Fimo professional in Dolphin grey, if that helps anyone) to block in the rough shapes I want to have, like so:
The rough shapes blocked in in full:
Then using a cocktail stick/toothpick/kebab skewer/any pointy thing I 'push' the clay down to stick it to the main model. I do this for two reasons: 1 because the main body has already been baked, so it's okay to push against (and you have to do it to get it to stick) and 2. Because in a moment we'll pull the clay away from the model, and if it isn't stuck fast it'll just peel off.
Push in quite hard here.
Then we score lines away from the main body, like this one. Hence it needs to be stuck pretty fast. Basically just use it as a pencil at this stage, drawing lines.
Here it is with that bit done. Looks rubbish so far, right? Yes. Yes it does.
Those fuzzy crumbly bits are really annoying. I don't know if it is a Fimo thing (as the clay cools it gets less elastic and more prone to breaking) or not, but it drives me nuts. You basically have to press down on each little bit with the tip of the skewer until it smooths out but leaves the lines you've drawn. I don't have a pic for this.
At this point with the neck wrinkles I stopped, happy that it was smooth enough. But for the fur I want a bit more texture, so I get a pin and score more, smaller lines on it. (Warning: colossal thumb alert!)
And there we go: fur!
Next up I'll put the finished thing...
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bgcdazzler
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Lord Sprogrot of the Medusa Clan
Right then: I think he's done. I'm calling him done (except for a bit of a base piece, but more on that in a second).
I've added two teeth on one side, and a fur ruff on his back. I've also carved out the back so it is neater and not so heavy. Amazingly it still stands up really well: it seems luckily to be quite well balanced. A happy accident.
The fur and teeth are not baked yet, so if they're rubbish to your eyes tell me and I can just peel them off.
So here he is: Lord Sprogrot of The Medusa Clan
(With thanks to Digga for the name)
Here's a size comparison with King Maulg and a ruler. He's 74mm tall: will be 90mm with the base bit I'm going to add. Something simple and square, neatening up the back view and giving him a little lift so you can see his shirt better.
Thank you all for your help and advice on this one: it's been a fun little journey with lots learned. I've really enjoyed the scaling up in size to get more detail in there; I'm going to get back on King Maulg and finish him up and then - who knows? - I might sculpt something else.
Cheers!
dazzler
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Right then: I think he's done. I'm calling him done (except for a bit of a base piece, but more on that in a second).
I've added two teeth on one side, and a fur ruff on his back. I've also carved out the back so it is neater and not so heavy. Amazingly it still stands up really well: it seems luckily to be quite well balanced. A happy accident.
The fur and teeth are not baked yet, so if they're rubbish to your eyes tell me and I can just peel them off.
So here he is: Lord Sprogrot of The Medusa Clan
(With thanks to Digga for the name)
Here's a size comparison with King Maulg and a ruler. He's 74mm tall: will be 90mm with the base bit I'm going to add. Something simple and square, neatening up the back view and giving him a little lift so you can see his shirt better.
Thank you all for your help and advice on this one: it's been a fun little journey with lots learned. I've really enjoyed the scaling up in size to get more detail in there; I'm going to get back on King Maulg and finish him up and then - who knows? - I might sculpt something else.
Cheers!
dazzler
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SaintToad
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Thanks for showing some of your techniques! I think that the orc looks great, and I definitely think the teeth complete the personality of the face.
Also, Maulg looks really cool, too. I am really digging the bright clean style you're laying down.
This has definitely been an exciting WIP lately!
Also, Maulg looks really cool, too. I am really digging the bright clean style you're laying down.
This has definitely been an exciting WIP lately!
bgcdazzler
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Ha, thanks Saint: I seem to be on a bit of a mission lately! No doubt I'll slow down a bit over Christmas, but right now I'm enjoying myself enormously.
