AndyG WIP (pic heavy)

AndyG

Active member
Shhhhh the wife's asleep so I've been getting in some more painting quick sharp just got to do the base and its finito.
 

Meph

Cat-herder Extraordinaire
Shhh, don't wake her. Her nap times are worth it...
Unless you're using pharmaceutical shenannigans...
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
The nmm is very nice, especially the silver. The red could have been richer to my taste but maybe it's just the image.
 

AndyG

Active member
No your entirely right Avelorn I struggle with red all the time it is a bit dull. Definitely an area I need to work on.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Mike I'll let you have that one after the comments I made about you. Your revenge is served cold ;)
Very generous young sir, very generous indeed.

I think I'm understanding Avelorn's comment about the Red cloak, in comparison to the silver and gold it's looking a bit 'thin' and undernourished as a colour. It possibly could do with some complementary shadow tones.
 
Red looks fine to me but I'm not an expert in the least at saturation. Seems like what Mike and Ave say is that it's not bold or saturated enough, which would obviously mean that you are desaturating the mid tone or base coat too much by letting your shadows and highlights overtake the mid tone. Make sense? Lately I've been experimenting a bit with this. Sometimes we can show gradations in our painting or change the boldness of our tones simply by adding more layers in certain areas and feathering our paint towards that same area. For instance, let's say I want to shade a beer belly. In the center of the belly I just add 1-3 layers of flesh tone, and paint towards the underside of the belly, adding many more layers here than on the top center of the belly. That way we highlight and shade without even desaturating or mixing the paint at all. Ya dig?

i love your work on this last mini. Maybe in my top 3-5 all time of your work. Not a fan of the all gold Warhammer though. I know, Holy Sigmar and all, but I probably would have painted the grips and accoutrements different colors. Still, Bravo good Sir.
 

Sproket

New member
I can't quite believe how many quality paint jobs you've done in such a short time. You've completed one mini in the time its take me to get started on one!

Red is a notoriously tricky colour to paint and it's all to easy to go too pink,yellow,chalky or desturated. Glazing over the highlights with a strong red/orange can help. When I painted the coat on my uncle john bust I tried a slightly different approach. I began with a base coat of the lightest/brightest red and then worked down through the mid tones to the shadows. Going from light to dark really helped to keep the colour I wanted in the highlights without compromising on contrast. A touch of deep blue/purple in the shadows can work wonders too!
 
Solid advice Sprock that I hadn't thought of doing myself. Ninety percent of the time I do mid tone, shadows, and then highs. In some cases, like on a skull, I go from darkest to lightest. But your method truly would be a great way of retaining contrast whilst preserving a strong mid tone.

I definitely see some blue in the shadows of the cape.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Sproket, food for thought.
I'd never have considered going Bright to Dark, but now you've mentioned it, it does make a great deal of sense for some colours.

Gonna have to try it soon.
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
Light to dark can also help in that you won't build up too much paint in the highlights. 90% shading and 10% highlighting was something that some of the french painters used couple of years back, not sure if they still do. I have a vague memory that Jeremie Bonamant posted a tutorial about it. IIRC they called it the shading down technique.
 

Kretcher

Active member
It is true what you say Avalorn, I have a video form him and he usually goes from light to shadow. around 80% shading I believe but not sure and that should properly change depending on the colour and how it behave.
 

AndyG

Active member
Ok been proper poorly with a stinker of a cold I blame Sprocket some how he passed the cold down the Internet :). Anyway just quickly finished off the Valten mini and I've prepped a chaos sorcerer on flying disk. I want to keep my hand in with the little minis as well ve been doing a lot of large scale recently. Anyway I gave the red cloak a glaze of the really old school GW red ink must be ten years old or more it made it pop a bit more. Simple base no biggy. Looking forward to the sorcerer tzeentch would be happy!
 

Teronus

New member
Really nice! If i may the first thing I saw that was distracting me is the gold on gold the hand on the handle, maybe if that part and only that part where he got the hand on those small lozenges i would of done differently maybe, That is only my personal feeling I had to share, your minis looks super awesome man WTG!
 

moetle

New member
One of the best Valtens I've ever seen. Are you going to do a large scenic base or stick with something simple?
 
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