Bailey03's WIP

ArchArad

New member
That's a really great tip Bailey. I still need to conquer my fear of skin in general, but I'll try to remember this trick.
 

Bailey03

Well-known member
That'd be nice, though I can tell from the vote tally that the one's aren't from a registered user. Or at least not from a user who is signed into their account.

I don't want to fixate on it, after all I'm sure just about everyone who's posted the gallery has been sniped at least one time if not many more. I'm just intrigued that someone has been coming back each day to do it. I tried to keep an eye on the other pieces in the "Top Last 7 Days" section and it doesn't appear like this person is targeting anyone else. Maybe they don't like my style of painting or the historical subject matter. In my head I picture them getting cartoonishly angry and frustrated when they stop by the gallery each morning and see that the score has jumped back up. =)
 

Digganob

New member
LMAO that is a perfect picture. The steam blasting out their ears. The other way to take it is you did such an amazing job that someone has to keep sniping it just out of spite because its such great work. Either way a troll is a troll and the world is filled with them. Doesnt make your stuff any less amazing my friend.
 

Bailey03

Well-known member
Yup, out of the top last 7 days and so far no one has stopped by to vote a 1 on my piece. Of course, as soon as Zab wakes up and signs on, I'm sure that will change.

In other news, I just saw this new piece from M Proyec announced for pre-order. It's a pretty cool looking bust. I especially like how they did the arms on him. I probably won't end up getting it, but I can imagine quite a few people on this site would love to paint up this figure. As with all their stuff, this is limited release (only 100 copies will be made). It also looks like the arms are a pre-order bonus. The regular release will only come with the left arm. If you're interested, check out their website: http://www.mproyec.com/#!noghx/cbhr
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fluisterwoud

Active member
Yeah that is a really cool bust, too bad I have no extra cash right now so I'll have to miss out. As for snipers, I've had three pieces make N&N and top last 7 days (4 now with the AWL) and they were all dropped a full point within an hour of making it. I get if you don't like my style, just vote what you really think it is and move on. No need to vote five 1's just because it's at 8.9 and you think it's only a 7. I imagine the snipers, when looking at the vote score, yelling at the imaginary internet people "STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE!" My AWL made it up last night and to my surprise actually went up in score rather than down. Let's see how long that lasts.
 

Bailey03

Well-known member
Exactly. That's how the voting is supposed to work. If a piece is scoring a 9 and you think it should be an 8, then vote 8. Don't vote a bunch of 1's until the score actually is an 8. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, but voting 1 just because you don't agree with the score means that you think your opinion matters more than everyone else who has voted on the piece. I've seen a few instances where someone is clearly messing with the system to boost their score. Something was just submitted and already has 800 votes and is scored way above where it would normally be. In which case, I can at least understand wanting to fight cheating with cheating. But if a piece has 30 votes, 40 votes, etc, those are legitimate votes. Just give it what you think it really should be and let everyone else have their own opinions as well.

To be honest, there are times I think a sniper could actually have a positive impact on your score. If they lower your score enough, people might vote higher than normal because they think the score is too low. Then, when the ones get removed, the score pops up higher than it originally was.

In the end, it's the price you pay for sharing your work on the internet. If you get into the new and notable section or top last 7 days, your work is going to be seen by more people (which is good), but it's also that much more likely to get noticed by a sniper. Thankfully, I really don't think there are that many of them. Compared to other sites and other hobbies, the vast majority of figure painters seem really nice, helpful, and friendly. CMON does a good job of factoring out their votes. So, you've just got to roll your eyes when it happens and wait for them to get bored and move on.
 

Zab

New member
Arg! Carpel tunnel! So... hard... to give... any... more... 1s...

Know what you mean. i got sniped right off of WAMP. Sad, because i really liked the work there, but i have always been more active here :)

Gotta go ice my wrist now so i am fresh for tomorrow. I saw this really nice samurai archer in the gallery that I am jealous of...

:p
 

fluisterwoud

Active member
Nice job! I noticed when you hover over the image it shows a gold medal, but when you look at the entry it says 89.8, silver. Did you get sniped there too? Maybe the sniper is Roman Lappat!
 

SaintToad

New member
Sorry you're dealing with a jackass, Bailey. It's easy to say things like 'take it as a compliment' or whatever when it isn't your stuff, but the truth is it just sucks. I mean, it's true, it does in some way indicate that you're attracting enough positive attention to bring the sniper out of hiding (I don't need to worry about that!), but I'm sure it's infuriating all the same. Your stuff is outstanding and definitely deserves top billing on P&P. Keep your head up (er, down? for painting?)!
 

Bailey03

Well-known member
Nah, I think it just rounds up for the trophy (at least in the main gallery). If you mouse over the picture in the 'popular' section it's silver but in the 'editor's choice' it's gold. If you upgrade to a pro membership it lets you actually see who has voted what. Thankfully Roman gave me a gold. I did get one bronze, one silver, and the rest were golds.

The score at P&P is a bit weird. It's not just the votes but also how many you get. So even if you have 10 votes and they're all gold, your score is still a silver.
 

Bailey03

Well-known member
It's been a bit quiet here. I haven't had much time to paint over the past week. I did make some minimal progress on the hussar figure, but nothing really worth showing. In other news, I finally broke down and bought a new GW figure. I've been tempted for a while to paint up one of the Imperial Knights, so I picked up the new Imperial Knights Renegade game. If I can stay motivated, this will be a great piece to practice my airbrushing skills and some of the vehicle weathering techniques I've been meaning to try out. As for the big pieces of armor, I'd like to go a little crazy with the freehand. Try to make something that feels very high gothic but also dirty and 40K. Whether or not I'll actually manage to finish the piece, who knows... but it should be fun to work on!

In other news, if anyone is in the San Diego area or planning to come to Kingdom-Con, let me know. It's a gaming convention and this is the first year they've got some painting events. The Draconic Awards will be running a competition and a number of people (Aaron Lovejoy, Elizabeth Beckley, and Caleb Wissenback) will be teaching painting classes. I'll be there on Saturday. I'm not planning to compete in anything, but I was going to do a mini painting class on faces while I was there.
 

SkelettetS

New member
i thought "whfb imperial knight yeeey cooool" then i saw 40k. ;)

anyway, i feel all this gallery-scoring such a bore. i wish someone could just do a miniature gallery without scoring.
 

Bailey03

Well-known member
Over on WAMP's gallery, they give you the option to turn off the voting on any of your pieces. It's nice to have the flexibility to choose whether or not you want to let people rate your work. Of course that site doesn't get anywhere near the traffic of CMON and the organization of their gallery is a bit of a mess. But at least I thought that option was worth mentioning.
 
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