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Shawn R. L.

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I have no tolerance for graffiti \'doers\' (wont give them the dignity of calling them artists) no matter how talented they are..................You wanna paint?? Go do it on YOUR OWN frikin house!
 

MPJ

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So your saying he does this graffiti stuff without permission? If that\'s the case then it\'s rather criminal (no opinion necessary, it would be fact). Either way it\'s stretching the meaning of the word \'art\'.

I may not no art but I knows what I like, and that\'s not it. :drunk:

Actually, I\'m rather fond of Neoclassicism and Renaissance, I can deal with some Impressionism but that\'s about as \'weird\' as I get with art.
 

matty1001

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Originally posted by MPJ
So your saying he does this graffiti stuff without permission? If that\'s the case then it\'s rather criminal (no opinion necessary, it would be fact). Either way it\'s stretching the meaning of the word \'art\'.

I may not no art but I knows what I like, and that\'s not it. :drunk:

Actually, I\'m rather fond of Neoclassicism and Renaissance, I can deal with some Impressionism but that\'s about as \'weird\' as I get with art.

Correct, its all without permission. He even glued his art up in museums and gallerys!
 

supervike

Super Moderator
I agree, I am not in favor of graffiti artists in general, so yeah, I think he is a criminal in that regard...

but look at some of his stuff on the website.

It really evokes feeling, so obviously it has some merit, illegal or no.
 

Legacy Account

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Guerilla artist extraordinaire.

Graffiti has long been the weapon of the revolutionary and the stencil carries definite connotations of this. To dismiss all graffiti as mindless vandalism seems a little naive, but hey, if the government tells you it\'s bad, then it must be, right?

If you look a little way past the fact that it\'s graffiti, you\'ll see a deft wit and biting sense of humour in what he does.

The guy is the antidote to the shit that appears in The Turner Prize every year for me.....

:bouncy:

And you\'ll find that most of his stuff is done on public buildings, not individuals houses or cars.....
 

MarkusTay

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I love that guy!

How can you not appreciate this?

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It\'s provacative and political, a real dig at the media and the spin doctor\'s. The man is a genius. Hey! Maybe he\'s a super villain! lol
 

Beelzebrush

Active member
Originally posted by Spacemunkie
Guerilla artist extraordinaire.

Graffiti has long been the weapon of the revolutionary and the stencil carries definite connotations of this. To dismiss all graffiti as mindless vandalism seems a little naive, but hey, if the government tells you it\'s bad, then it must be, right?

If you look a little way past the fact that it\'s graffiti, you\'ll see a deft wit and biting sense of humour in what he does.

The guy is the antidote to the shit that appears in The Turner Prize every year for me.....

:bouncy:

And you\'ll find that most of his stuff is done on public buildings, not individuals houses or cars.....

Eloquently put Mr. Munkie!

Couldn\'t agree more.
 

the alleycat

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Yup, i\'m with Mr Munkie on this one too.

The thing about grafitti is that a lot of people have only ever encountered \'tagging\'... which is where kids with spray cans make a mess on a wall.
 

MPJ

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\"Most\" is on public buildings? Well then that\'s OK. :drunk:

Last I checked it\'s my tax dollars that are paying for these public buildings, and it\'s my tax dollars that pay to clean them up after some twit doodles all over them.

Vandalism is a cowards crime. Cowardly because the purpetrator doesn\'t have the guts to come out and say what they have to say but rather hide in the shadows and deface other peoples hard earned property as their MO.

Just because someone can use their spraycan to make their defacement look like something doesn\'t make them any better than any other punk \'tagger\'. If anything it makes them worse because they could probablly use their tallents in more supportive ways and perhaps actually do their thing where people might want it (and even pay them).
 

Highbulp Billy

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Originally posted by MPJ
\"Most\" is on public buildings? Well then that\'s OK. :drunk:

Last I checked it\'s my tax dollars that are paying for these public buildings, and it\'s my tax dollars that pay to clean them up after some twit doodles all over them.
For those of us living in the UK and paying our Council Tax I can quote you the new Best Value Performance Indicator being imposed on Local Authorities from the Government - BVPI 199b The proportion of relevant land and highways (expressed as a percentage) from which unacceptable levels of graffiti are visible. Therefore, Local Authorities are being pressured to spend their limited funds on targetting graffiti of all types in all places and thereby having to charge it\'s residents for this. Please note, I am dull enough to work in Local Authority performance management :no::cry::no:

Personally, I have no problem with graffiti if it has a purpose or is artistic as it quite often improves the look of what are otherwise dull or run-down areas of town. but when it\'s just \"tagging\" or plain vandalism I don\'t really see the point.
 

Bill

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I think he is a bit of both. While his graffiti is a crime, it is certainly awesome :wow: He does public exhibitions too, the last one featured a live elephant painted with a pattern to look like flock wallpaper :D I think it is in the \'indoors\' section of his site. And the website is awesome, anyway. I like th one with the maid sweeping under the wall :cool:
 

MPJ

New member
Originally posted by MarkusTay
How can you not appreciate this?

<Image removed to save space... scroll up if you need a refresher>

It\'s provacative and political, a real dig at the media and the spin doctor\'s. The man is a genius. Hey! Maybe he\'s a super villain! lol

Provacative and political? Don\'t see it myself, it\'s not pointing out anything new to anyone. Just about every single person of operational intelligence knows how intrusive the media can be so this is illustrating nothing new to anyone nor pointing out any hidden agendas. It\'s about as politically shocking as a cartoon about Hitler and what a sicko he was. At best this rates as a political cartoon to be perhaps placed in the editorial section of a newspaper, not plastered over my/our walls without permission.

I have a great distrust and dislike for the media and even I don\'t think this to be provactive or political. I (and about everyone else) can \'appreaciate\' the message without appreaciating the \'art\'.

Originally posted by Bill
He does public exhibitions too, the last one featured a live elephant painted with a pattern to look like flock wallpaper I think it is in the \'indoors\' section of his site.

So he\'s into the torture of rare and exotic animals too? Sounds like a real winner.

Anyway, just my two cents.
 
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